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  • Jon Cairns

    December 23, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    @Jeremy

    To some extent this is true. There are libraries in both Aperture and X, but Events don’t exist in Aperture.

    From a Apple support on using Aperture with iPhoto:

    Projects in Aperture are called Events in iPhoto. Likewise, Events in iPhoto are called Projects in Aperture.

    It would, for me, make it easier to understand but if Apple was consistent but, hey, I always referred to the “viewer” and “canvas” as program and preview windows.

    Jon

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 23, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    It’s true there are no Events. But the Project and Libraries are similar, not the same, but similar.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 23, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    [James Ewart] “I agree if you want new terminology that’s fine but nobody would have the gall to come up with a new Word Processing App and to call “Paragraphs” “Sentences”. “

    Yes, a Project is a timeline, or sequence, but it also doesn’t have to be just that.

    in 10.0 a Project could function like a project and less like a sequence. You could add a bunch of disparate selects, uncut, and send that as a package to another person with or without the media.

    This helped in a collaborative environments.

    Libraries kind of do away with this function, though.

    [James Ewart] “Calling “Timelines or Sequences” “Projects” is confusing UNLESS in the future we will be open to open a number of different timelines (or sub projects, or versions) within one Project.

    Is that a possibility?”

    Im not sure what you might be asking, but you can’t nest a Project within a Project. 10.1 has a better versioning system called Snapshots. This means that your timeline stays current, and the snapshots are old versions of the Project. It does away with the dupe, rename, file away method.

  • James Ewart

    December 23, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Thanks

    I’ve been looking at snapshots as an alternative to the previously unrecommended (by most) workflow of selecting all and saving a cut as a compound clip.

    Is that the general idea – instead of the previously rather tedious workflow of going back to projects and duplicating to back up a version?

    Because no matter how many times I read the Help section I cannot quite get my ever diminishing brain around the difference in need between duplicate and duplicate as snapshot. If I do not duplicate as snapshot then all my compound clips in the duplicate get changedd when I make changes to the original and vice versa.

    “Specifically, duplicating a project as a snapshot makes copies of the compound or multicam “parent” clips and embeds them in the project so that any changes to other instances of the clips do not affect the snapshot.”

    Why would I ever want to NOT duplicate as snapshot?

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 23, 2013 at 5:58 pm

    [James Ewart] “Because no matter how many times I read the Help section I cannot quite get my ever diminishing brain around the difference in need between duplicate and duplicate as snapshot. If I do not duplicate as snapshot then all my compound clips in the duplicate get changedd when I make changes to the original and vice versa.”

    That’s correct.

    When duping as a snapshot, everything remains frozen as is.

    If you DON’T use a snapshot and dupe the Project, all the ‘reference’ clips (reference clips are what Apple calls them, it means compound and multicam clips) will update if you change them.

    [James Ewart] “Why would I ever want to NOT duplicate as snapshot?”

    When you want the changes you make to reference clips to ripple across all of your Projects. For instance. You have a multicam clip, but don’t have all the angles. Later, you want to add an angle or mixed audio to the multicam clip.

    If you duped the project, all instances of the multiclip would be updated. Snapshots would not have that update.

    Most of the time, my guess is that people will use Snapshots.

  • James Ewart

    December 23, 2013 at 6:02 pm

    Well for sure I will be a snapshot fan. Interestingly Apple have included a default keyboard shortcut for duplicate but not for duplicate as snapshot (I have remapped).

  • Craig Alan

    December 24, 2013 at 12:50 am

    I think when you make a change to a compound clip that you have used in other timelines, you should get a dialog box of all instances of its use and you could check which ones you want updated and which to be left unmodified.

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