8K at 60p, and the future of post?

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Walter Soyka] “Have you seen this?”

No, but that sounds highly useful!

[Walter Soyka] “Of course, even that job will become irrelevant when computers start designing things for computer consumption…”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF7b_MNEIAg

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[Andrew Kimery]

[Jeremy Garchow] “This singularity isn’t happening today, but I feel it’s kind of close, and technology becoming much smaller, faster, cheaper, easier to use, easier to program/customize, and at decent quality, benefits some of us, but does it benefit all of us?”

I certainly agree that the downsizing/democratization of gear is making many things optional that used to be a requirement. Does it benefit all of us? No. It only benefits people that recognize what’s happening and can either adapt to it or move to someplace that isn’t as impacted by the change at hand.

For people that are good at what they do I think they’ll be able roll with the punches. For people that aren’t that good at what they do but got business anyway because they were the only one in town that owned the required gear, well, those guys might be in trouble.

It also benefits people that are talented but could never get their hands on the expensive gear that used to be required (expensive being a relative term of course). Some day (sooner rather than later in 1st world countries) video production is going to be another common form of literacy where the tools required (on the most basic end) will be as common as pencil and paper. People still make a living off the written word (even though the skills and tools are ubiquitous) so I’m confident that people will also still be able to make a living producing videos for generations to come.

[Jeremy Garchow] “here is 8kp60 going to help us and should we chase that carrot? Maybe we should, I don’t know.”

I’m going to wait for the carrot to be within arm’s reach before I try to grab it.

[John Rofrano]

[Walter Soyka] “this is the fun stuff I really love about this forum.”

Agreed. This is the stuff technology can’t replace. 😉 (our creative mind)

[Walter Soyka] “I’d argue that technology mattered a great deal to the effectiveness of The Blair Witch Project. The medium was the message.”

I have to concede. So this is interesting. Our “technological frame of reference” helped sell the story. I hadn’t thought about how this affects us. In Forest Gump, for example, the flashbacks are immediately identified by their technology (i.e., B&W, or circa 1960’s color). The same is true for the 2-strip color process of early film. So in that respect, technology sets the theme in certain circumstances. I hadn’t considered that.

[Walter Soyka] “But surely listening to a song with white earbuds and listening to it in concert is different? And surely watching a movie on your iPhone is a different experience than watching it on your TV, which is a different experience than watching it in a movie theater?”

Yes, but is that lost on the iPhone generation? Will the experience be appreciated? Can only people like you and me appreciate it? Getting back to my other post about my wife always watching SD. For me there is a big difference between stretched SD and a proper aspect HD image. For me it ruins the movie. For my wife and kids it doesn’t matter. They actually yell at me when I switch to an HD version of the same channel!

[Walter Soyka] “Put another way — if you were making a movie intended to be shown on iPhones, would you make different creative choices than for one intended to be shown in theaters?”

Should we? As an audio engineer I know I mix different for small speakers than for large ones. From a movie perspective we mix audio at different levels for broadcast and theatre. In a live stage performance we exaggerate our actions because the audience is quite a distance and subtleties will be lost unless you do (which, btw, is why William Shatner appeared “larger than life” in Star Trek because he was a stage actor and he brought that to TV but it didn’t quite translate the same!) So YES, I believe I would make different creative choices if I knew that my movie would only be seen on a device too small to see the subtleties of the message.

[Walter Soyka] “Can you effectively convey the vastness of space on an iPhone screen? Does that change in viewing scale change your emotional response as a viewer?”

Hmmm… emotional response is an interesting topic.I have a particular soft spot for a “live” string quartet. There is something about the sound of the rosin on the bow as it connects with the string that you can’t capture in a recording. When I went to see American Idiot on Broadway they had a live string quartet and it brought shivers down my spine (i.e., an emotional response). I don’t think my son sitting next to me felt quite the same way. Perhaps it’s because I’m a musician? Perhaps it’s something else. The question is whether advances in technology like 8K60p will be appreciated by future audiences or have mobile devices desensitized them to it?

[Walter Soyka] “Really, thanks again for engaging. I obviously have a point of view here (I think that the history of “film” is one long love affair with technology moreso than other traditional art forms), but I mean this as more exploratory than argumentative.”

I think I’m beginning to see where you are coming from. Technology has a greater impact that I was giving it credit for. So now we need to figure out what will 8K60p gives us that we didn’t have before and what will we do with it? (… oh sorry, that was your question) 😉

~jr

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