5D and FCP

[Dane Silzle]

What ever your comfortable with.

Please note: “MPEG Streamclip” is not “GRINDER” and is FREE and
there is NO time consuming log-and-transfer. You just import your
perfect ProRes 422 movies.

Again, it’s just another option.

Dane
drppost

7D,T2i, GH13 Tester13 hack (76mbps)
ZF,L,Nikkor, Lomo PL

MacPro
8 core 18 Gig
10.5.8
FCS 2
Decklink HDExtreme
HDone

MBP
4Gig
FC2
MX0 2 mini

[Kris Merkel]

Streamclip vs. compressor vs. L&T:

With a full 16Gb card converting to prores422, L&T is takes about 1.5 hours, Streamclip is just over an hour, and while you can use compressor to transcode the files, unless you use Qmaster and multiple cores, takes longer than both.

One item that has not been mentioned, and my be the tiebreaker on which method you choose the use is that L&T adds timecode to the clips.

[Kris Merkel]

“Each card Dump goes into its own folder, each fold has a unique name that becomes the REEL name within FCP. The Card is then just copied into the folder with the exact structure as the card, only the Volume level is not copied.”

I have 2 full cards from this weeks shooting that I am going to try the above workflow with, right now. thanks for the tip.

[Kris Merkel]

When I dump the card into a folder and then try to open the folder in Log and Transfer i get this msg.

“100CANON” contains unsupported media or has an invalid directory structure. Please choose a folder whose directory structure matches supported media.

How are you dumping the card?

[Uli Plank]

Dump the whole content of the card into one folder and choose the folder into which you dumped it, not any folder inside of it.

Director of the Institute of Media Research (IMF) at Braunschweig University of Arts

[Bill Davis]

Please notice that the OP did NOT ask about any form of safety backup workflow.

He asked how to GET HIS CLIPS FROM THE CAMERA TO THE TIMELINE – period.

I’m sure everyone here has their pet way to backup, number, file, offload, offsite backup, and or hermetically seal a perfect clone of the original card in lucite and burry it in an anti-radiation vault deep within a mountain.

And that’s all great.

But it’s NOT responsive to the guys question.

You want to have a nice chat about how your way to backup is the ONLY right way – fine. Have at it.

Personally, I find it a HUGE waste of time. Anyone working with 5dMkii files have already seen at least 4 MAJOR changes in the capabilities, nature, included software and workflow recommendations by both Canon and Apple (who should have some reasonable ideas about this stuff since they invented it) for working with these files.

There’s a good chance in in the coming months and years, EVERYTHING we’re doing now will change as these companies and others refine a workflow that was NEVER supposed to be as professionally functional as it’s now become in the first place.

So sorry, but today’s EXPERT is tomorrow’s “old fashioned” practitioner. Heck, the way we’re doing things at 10am is likely to change before 5pm on some unlucky days.

So relax. Do what you feel best. If you’re getting work done at a rate that makes you happy – sit back and enjoy that reality. I am and I do.

Life’s too short to worry that you’re way isn’t “PERFECT” enough.

Just like popping up and telling others that their way that works perfectly fine is somehow “wrong” simply because it differs from how YOU feel it “should” be done.

My 2 cents anyway.

[Michael Sacci]

Well since the OP seemed interested is learning I will continue with my train of thought.

Edward, make sure you are keeping the 100CANON folder inside the DCIM folder when you copy them, L&T needs the that structure. (I need go back and look at you do not need to copy the MISC folder but it will not hurt to do it anyway)

Back to Bill, you are right the “best” way to do it will change and we should never stitch to “our” way if something is better and safer out there. But to do it any old way because the best way to do it today will not be the best way down the road doesn’t make much sense.

Today’s experts will normally learn tomorrow’s way, while today’s fool has a head start on tomorrow.

[Michael Sacci]

And if you read my post I never said you were wrong, just that I would not recommend it, and then told him why I think that.

[Michael Sacci]

[Kris Merkel] “One item that has not been mentioned, and my be the tiebreaker on which method you choose the use is that L&T adds timecode to the clips. “
That is the time breaker for me. Plus L&T gives you full logging (if anyone even does that anymore) You can break up clips into separate master clips, you can trim ins and outs. You can add comments, reel names and so on. This is huge if you are organizing you media.

That is why this needs to be looked at as a workflow and not just what is faster. So the what way should I import clips will vary from project to project. For a documentary with hundreds or thousands of clips, Take more time up front is probably the best way to go. I card full of clips that needs to be edited and delivered in a day, probably Streamclip or grinder might make more sense.

[Mitch Ives]

we copied everything off of the card into a folder. Obviously, we did something wrong, since it works for you. Thanks to you and Michael for pointing that out… time to get it right over here… thanks again.

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.
mitch@insightproductions.com
http://www.insightproductions.com