4K monitors

[Marcus Moore]

Ultimately I think that’s exactly what it is- people want Vistavision in their homes- one aspect of that is certainly clarity. Depth and quality of colour is a much harder metric to quantify.

And I think “digital” has a lot to do with it. I think analogue scaling is much more forgiving. If you take an 8mm film and project it in a theatre, the image will be soft, but it will still look “natural”. While digital images blown up past their original resolution degrade in a very unnatural way. I think that’s why resolution IS an important part of the picture.

If you went back 20 years, when all those shows were shot on videotape at 480i- if those people knew that their shows would be technically sidelined in just over a decade, do you think they would have thought harder about shooting on film (since no HD alternative existed)?

[Mitch Ives]

[John Davidson] “I always thought the old 30″ were too high, but to each his own!”

Still using one on a new Mac Pro. I like it better than those glossy screens they have now…

Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.

“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill

[Shawn Miller]

[Marcus Moore] “If you went back 20 years, when all those shows were shot on videotape at 480i- if those people knew that their shows would be technically sidelined in just over a decade, do you think they would have thought harder about shooting on film (since no HD alternative existed)?”

I believe most comedies and dramas were still being shot on film 20 years ago… prime time shows, at least. Shows with decent budgets like ER were never shot in SD… instead, going from film to HD (I think they shot on Red cameras when they went digital).

Shawn

[Marcus Moore]

I think I’m mostly referring to sit-coms, like FAMILY TIES or THE COSBY SHOW, which were shot video. In the 90s it seems like they went back to film with shows like CHEERS, SIENFELD and FRIENDS. I’m not sure when these kids of shows moved to digital.

I mean, it’s hard to say what the market for that 80s material is in the long run. But it is always amazing to think that shows from the 50’s and 60’s like LEAVE IT TO BEAVER or GILLIGAN’S ISLAND could conceivably be given a 4K treatment, while shows made decades later will forever be trapped in 480i hell.

[Shawn Miller]

[Marcus Moore] “I think I’m mostly referring to sit-coms, like FAMILY TIES or THE COSBY SHOW, which were shot video. In the 90s it seems like they went back to film with shows like CHEERS, SIENFELD and FRIENDS. I’m not sure when these kids of shows moved to digital.

I mean, it’s hard to say what the market for that 80s material is in the long run. But it is always amazing to think that shows from the 50’s and 60’s like LEAVE IT TO BEAVER or GILLIGAN’S ISLAND could conceivably be given a 4K treatment, while shows made decades later will forever be trapped in 480i hell.”

Ah, I see your point. Though, I think it’s always been a question of budget, even for popular shows like All in the Family or Barney Miller… video was just cheaper to shoot. Then again, who could have predicted (then) that there would be a market for high(ish) quality on demand video in the future?

Lastly, I want my episodes of the (1960’s) Twilight Zone in 10bit, 4k on physical media! 🙂

Shawn

[Richard Herd]

[Andrew Kimery] “TV broadcasting will remain HD for the foreseeable future because of all the technical hurdles of switching from HD to 4K”

What are the technical hurdles?

[Walter Soyka]

[Richard Herd] “What are the technical hurdles?”

Replacing every single piece of HD video gear in the pipeline with a piece of 4K video gear, from storage and playout to transmission.

Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Rich Rubasch]

We have the Seiki 65 inch in our lobby….bug head turner. We have a rotating selection of 4K jpegs that look great.

Looking at the Brightsign 4K player for digital signage.

Rich Rubasch
Tilt Media Inc.
Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
Founder/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
https://www.tiltmedia.com

[Andrew Kimery]

[Walter Soyka] “Replacing every single piece of HD video gear in the pipeline with a piece of 4K video gear, from storage and playout to transmission.
“

Basically this ^.

It will be the analog to digital move all over again (including updated digital b’cast signals not being compatible with current HDTVs thus requiring all new TV purchases or purchasing of new receiver box to plug into your existing HDTV).

EDIT:
To expand slightly on this, below is a link that talks about the ATSC 3.0 standard that is in the very early phases of development. It will include 4K and other cool stuff, but it will also be incompatible with ATSC 1.0 (the current HD b’cast standard) and ATSC 2.0 (a revised version of the current ATSC 1.0 b’cast standard that has yet to be implemented). Basically, new hardware for everyone!

https://www.tvtechnology.com/article/tv-tomorrow-atsc–advances/221069

[Rick Lang]

John, have you played back ‘Scope format films (roughly 2.39:1 aspect ratio) on that 3440×1440 screen? Must be a pleasure to see? Don’t know why this is marketed as 21:9 since that would have a 2.333:1 aspect ratio and your screen is 2.389:1. Very nice I imagine.

Rick Lang

iMac 27” 2.8GHz i7 16GB