4:4:4 HDSR INTO FCP via AJA KONA Issues

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Joseph Owens] “People forget this is electricity that they’re dealing with.”

So, if I were to take HDSDI A and HDSDI B and stick them on my tongue, will it be the same sensation as a 9 volt battery? Or will my tongue undulate @ 60p? In 1080?

[Joseph Owens] “The facility you work for turns individuals loose on $150,000 machines with no training? Fascinating. I hope their insurance is paid up.”

No you know what it feels like to be a rental house. Have fun storming the castle!

[Joseph Owens]

[Jeremy Garchow] “undulate”

the word is “ululate” and its that weird warbling noise that fanatics make as they are dispatching infidels and apostates. And anybody else that misbehaves.

jPo

You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Joseph Owens] ” its that weird warbling noise that fanatics make as they are dispatching infidels and apostates”

You mean like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb3k18y6_j0

Jeremy

[Keith Davies]

Thanks, I didn’t barrel anything together and i didn’t break anything.

That was a kind of shorthand response to the reply suggesting a LHi with 3G over a single cable, which is still confusing me a bit if 4.4.4 is by design a dual link technology. I presume via the multiplexor the data comes in via 2 and is reordered into a single stream?

I am fully aware of the cost of an HDSR. I have normally had to occasionally hook it up to the Kona 4.2.2. This had always in the night and the back of the deck backs into the TK suite so it’s always a nightmare trying to get the 4.2.2. hooked up with remote via flying leads through two racks. As we had never run 4.4.4. before this job i really wasn’t aware of how the signal is split. We don’t have a Kona 3 or an LHi, we have a LHe. I can’t do 4.4.4.

Thing is, I had been told that day that I could, and so was sure I was doing something wrong. I appologise if my comment has caused offence to the engineering world but that day I to digitise two other HD jobs on FCP, create ale files with keycode for 3 lab rolls, recreate a submaster of 3 lab rolls due to t/c issues on deliverables. Had a client attend with a paper edit from a film that i had to cut down and create a new HDCAM. Had meetings with two editors. and then there was the D5 transfer and I hadn’t seen one of those since the days when Channel 4 had to be different. It was a busy day, and I have to use numerous systems, and 4.4.4 is new to me.

I am very thankful to all who have contributed, and how nice to be liken to Homer Simpson, so much better than Mo Flanders. I reckon there’s a little of both of them in everyone.

I have had a quote from one company for the Kona3 and breakout. I don’t understand the LHi option enough to suggest it. Raid is next.
The company I asked to quote suggested eSATA as an option but I read that Kona don’t recommend this.

I work on film because I love the stuff, I did synch some of Hurt Locker, a few years back during production, really powerful, even uncut. It made me smile when I saw a clip I had synched on the news.

I started out working at The Mill in London, It was all High end commercial effects in the Henry & Harry days of Quantel. I was absoluely fascinated by what these guys colud do with pictures. I’d studied Fine Art so had been painting and this was like paint that never dried, so had no technical background at that time.

I did work in online at Molinaire for a number of years after this, we did a lot of promo stuff from neg and longform tv series, which was nice, but what drove me away was the awful digital content. Often some dude with a goatee, with two hours of utter garbage for MTV or some cheap channel. It was so nasty to look at, and always as deep as a puddle. Cut it to shreads to disguise the fact that this guy is plain empty. I got a call from the BBC once when dv reared it’s ugly head and they wanted to shoot a documentary. When I enquired about runtime of the rushes I was quoted 100 hours. It was for a 50 minute programme. That is just retarded. who would want to touch that one? That’s another reason I like film. You can’t afford to be that lame. And of course there is the silver & the chemicals which everyone knows is another way of describing magic… ‘It takes a lot to laugh, it takes a train to cry’…. Thanks again. Keith

[Jeremy Garchow]

[Keith Davies] “That was a kind of shorthand response to the reply suggesting a LHi with 3G over a single cable, which is still confusing me a bit if 4.4.4 is by design a dual link technology.”

At first, it was. In laymen’s terms, the components are split. It’s all about data rate and the physical SDI circuitry and less about the physical cable. Dual link technology is 1.5 Gbps per cable, so together, that’s 3Gbps. 3G technology, is 3Gbps over one cable. So 3G is essentially dual link data rate, multiplexed over one cable. The AJA product I linked to takes the 1.5 and 1.5 of dual link and multiplexes to one 3G connection. If you have a 3G capable capture card (like the LHi, but not the Kona3), then you can capture dual link over one cable. Hope that mkaes more sense.

[Keith Davies] “I appologise if my comment has caused offence to the engineering world…and how nice to be liken to Homer Simpson, so much better than Mo Flanders.”

I was just kidding around with the Homer clips and messing with jPo. I wasn’t liking that image to you at all. Sorry if you took offense, but it was not directed at you, but more directed at humor in general. 🙂

I don’t try to come down on people who know what they don’t know. It’s a silly way to go through life, and educators would then be out of business. If it comes to a point where I know everything there is to know about this business, I am sure that will be the day I quit as I will be done learning.

[Keith Davies] “I don’t understand the LHi option enough to suggest it. “

You’d need the LHi and the converter (dual ink 1.5 to 3G) to use the LHi. This way you could route one cable instead of two through the facility. The Kona 3 has other strengths though, in the Red and 2k department. Not sure if your’e working with any red and or 2k footage footage. If you are, stick with the K3.

Keep up the good work.

Jeremy