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  • Posted by Rob Gutermuth on June 13, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    Hi All

    I never really got an answer to my question I had a few months ago…

    Does anyone cut with FCP 7 and have multi 1080 60P files on the time line?

    if so, what was your set up if you don’t mind me asking? – Im running the last OS that will run it on a Mac Pro 5,1 and have 800+ MPS with 2 SSD in an array… and I still get it not responding every 5 mins and have to force quit.

    is 1080 60P too much for FCP 7? I know 4K would be a pipe dream, but 1080 I thought would be ok…

    Thanks

    Rob Gutermuth replied 11 months, 1 week ago 5 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Patrick Donegan

    June 13, 2022 at 9:31 pm

    It’s been a long time …

    Do you have the Activity Monitor running so you can see the CPU usage and the memory pressure?

    Do you have 2 clips … test … then add another clip and test?

    There could be a time where it starts to take time.

    Are these files all transcoded for Pro Res? Pro Res is supposed to be smoother in operation than other codecs.

  • Patrick Donegan

    June 13, 2022 at 9:31 pm

    And maybe you need to use Proxy files.

  • Rob Gutermuth

    June 13, 2022 at 11:47 pm

    Hi, – yes all transcoded to pro res. I even tried pro res proxy. – is there a “lighter” way to make proxy files then Pro Res Proxy?

    the problem happens mostly when Im moving the play head around a lot – it’s like it can’t keep up with what Im doing and just stalls out… I might have 2 or three clips stacked but only showing one clip at a time (100% opaque top layer) – it’s odd

    it takes forever and never stops spinning. – when I force quit, the box shows that FCP is not responding… Im assuming that means it’s never gonna?

    But I just want a workflow that will work for me. 1080i files are perfect and never have any issues but 29.97 vs 60p and interlaced vs Progressive… just don’t know why it wont work smoothly.

    Thanks

  • Emmet Reddy

    June 14, 2022 at 8:11 am

    Where is your media stored is it on an external drive ? is the drive fast? try putting a few clips that are having issues ie spinning etc onto your main drive and see if the playback is any better? You could go old school and downconvert everything to pal 720 x 576 or even smaller do an offline then reconform to online bit like the proxies i suppose.

    I loved FCP 7 but sometimes its time to call it a day and try something new. Good luck.

  • Rainer Wirth

    June 14, 2022 at 9:35 am

    Hi Rob,

    transcode your 1080 files to ProRes422 with 30 f/s.

    cheers

    Rainer

  • Dennis Couzin

    June 14, 2022 at 11:30 pm

    Rob Gutermuth wrote: “I’m running the last OS that will run [FCP7] on a Mac Pro 5,1”

    There are OS that will run FCP7, and there are OS that will run FCP7 well. We here have a volume with OSX Lion that runs FCP7 well on our Mac Pro 5,1. FCP7 has no problem at all with ProRes HQ clips 1920×1080 60p resident on good quality HDDs with eSATA connection.

    It’s hard to get FCP7 to run well. The system settings, etc. take some fiddling. It’s naïve to expect FCP7 to run as well after an OS upgrade. When ours didn’t, we reinstalled it, helped by Jon Chappell’s nice Preference Manager. But it still didn’t work as well as on Lion, so we returned to Lion. Certainly try reinstalling FCP7 on whatever OS you’re running, but if this doesn’t resolve your trouble consider setting up a volume with an OS on which you knew it worked well. The greatest pleasure of the Mac is the ease of multiple bootable volumes. Perhaps the greatest displeasure is the ease of OS upgrades which can come with firmware upgrades which can spoil earlier OS volumes.

    DC

  • Rob Gutermuth

    May 11, 2023 at 3:49 pm

    Hi there,

    The problem is that my HDMI card for preview (blackmagic Intensity pro 4K) needs at least HS to be seen.

    I do agree with you, it’s sort of like “if it was working perfectly, leave it alone” – lol

    I was running Mavericks actually on that machine and everything seemed to run better, but I could only output 1080i from the BM regular intensity card…

    does someone make an older card that will output 1080 60P via HDMI so I can preview the finished edits?

    Thanks

  • Rob Gutermuth

    May 11, 2023 at 4:08 pm

    Yeah, and then I loose 60fps which looks much better with motion. I have no problem with 30fps or 60i it’s 60P where it randomly hangs – so frustrating!

  • Rob Gutermuth

    May 11, 2023 at 4:11 pm

    I have a RAID card from sonnet with 2 SATA drives that are SDD and speed tests are 800+ so fast enough for 4k at least… did the same thing… I can’t go back to Lion or even Mavericks because my Intensity Pro card won’t work and then I can’t see 60P output on my preview monitor…

    I hate that I can’t get this to work…

  • Dennis Couzin

    May 20, 2023 at 2:11 am

    Are you talking about powerful graphics cards for the Mac Pro 5,1? We here use a flashed AMD Radeon HD 7950 (Sapphire) which has DVI-D, HDMI Standard, and mini DisplayPort outputs. 1080 60p, bah! With Mavericks, we watch 1080 144p with QuickTime via the HDMI port. (Our purpose is not frame rate per se, but emulation of film projector shutterings.)

    Sure, if hooked on old software like FCP7, and drawn to newer operating systems and devices, there are compatibility problems to solve.

    DC

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