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10.1 XML Import Test – Appears to be DOA
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[Simon Ubsdell] “To be fair, Apple are talking about it as “a rich XML format” acknowledging that there is some difference – though they haven’t exactly flagged up its limitations vis-a-vis legacy XML.”
To most human beings I know the term “rich” does not imply different, it implies better.
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[David Roth Weiss] ”
To most human beings I know the term “rich” does not imply different, it implies better.”Well put and I totally agree – it certainly shouldn’t be used to mean “less functional” and “not backwards compatible” which is what it clearly is intended to mean in this case.
But then they’ve shown that they’re pretty good with reconfiguring the way language gets used …
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[David Roth Weiss] “Apple should have spelled that out loud and clear. Every press release I’ve read today implies simply that XML Import/Export has been added to the 10.1 release. Nowhere is there any mention that it only supports special FCP X XMLs.”
Apple’s language, which I highlighted in my previous post, implies that it is an XML format specific to FCP X Proejcts and Events:
“import and export Final Cut Pro X project and Event information via a rich XML format”
Marketing 101 is accentuate the positive. They aren’t going to play up limitations in press releases, but they didn’t lie either. Are you sure you didn’t see “XML import and export” and immediately infer they had legacy XML import? I can see why it would be easy to jump to that conclusion, especially when everyone wants to be able to migrate their legacy FCP projects into FCP X somehow.
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[Andrew Richards] “Are you sure you didn’t see “XML import and export” and immediately infer they had legacy XML import? I can see why it would be easy to jump to that conclusion, especially when everyone wants to be able to migrate their legacy FCP projects into FCP X somehow.
“No Andrew, I certainly was not expecting full support of legacy projects, I simply wanted to see what it did do. The fact is, there isn’t anything it does do. Not a single XML file shows up that’s not grayed-out.
Furthermore, I just tested to to see if XML Export was working, and it’s not working from a 10.1 timeline. So, what does that mean or imply to you?
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@ Andrew-
XML shema (AXEL)
I assume shema=schema… right?
What is AXEL?
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[Simon Ubsdell] “But then they’ve shown that they’re pretty good with reconfiguring the way language gets used …”
That would be the PR department’s own little magnetic timeline.
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[Marvin Holdman] “I assume shema=schema… right?
What is AXEL?”
Yes, schema, typo.
AXEL is Apple eXchange Editing Language, Apple’s name for the new schema. Though in the XMLs themselves they simply call the DOCTYPE “fcpxml”. AXEL is referenced in the Resources within the FCPX app bundle. Maybe AXEL is just an internal code they won’t be using publicly.
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The XML from 10.1 seems to be very much the old familiar xml version 1.0 we (or at least some of us) has been staring at for (in my case) at least 8 years now (including the ?xml version=”1.0″ encoding=”UTF-8″? -tag…). They might have had to make up a bunch of new markers and tags and stuff to get this working, but it’s not that alien as what they threatened us with in the FAQ. The things the exporter (for now) misses are settings on published parameters on Motion templates. Which surely must be something they (=apple) can address. Either way this reassures me that there now are means to get things (with a little translational help) into this island to and from other vessels.
Erik Lundberg
Technical Director, Media Technology, University of Gothenburg, Sweden
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[David Roth Weiss] “I just tested to to see if XML Export was working, and it’s not working from a 10.1 timeline. So, what does that mean or imply to you?”
It implies you are inside a project timeline when you attempt to export the XML (just guessing). You need to highlight a project or event in their respective browser panes and then go to File > Export XML. Apparently, we don’t get to export project XMLs from within a timeline.
If that isn’t what you are doing and seeing, please share a bit more of what you are doing and seeing. It works perfectly for me. I just exported two event .fcpxml files and two project .fcpxml files and both imported right back in.
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[Andrew Richards] “You need to highlight a project or event in their respective browser panes and then go to File > Export XML. Apparently, we don’t get to export project XMLs from within a timeline.”
When I highlight a project or event Export XML is grayed out, so I’ll acknowledge something is clearly wrong here if you guys are getting different results.
I’ll try a system reboot and see if that affects anything.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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