-10 to -20 ?

[Robin Probyn]

What would it be?

Thanks

[Ty Ford]

the wrong cable would not work.

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[Robin Probyn]

What will happen to the audio if a stereo mini plug is used in a mono out socket??

Thanks again

[Ty Ford]

I don’t know. Try both and make a contribution to our knowledge.

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[Robin Probyn]

Ive used a stereo mini cable out out before it worked at least.. the sound wasnt great .. but I think that was because it was line to mic level.. so I guess it will work.. give it a try tomorrow.. but Iam feeling positive vibes… or that could be the wine..

[Rodney Morris]

Assuming your mixer tape output is mono, then you need a mono male 1/8″ to male XLR cable to go from your mixer to your Trew audio adapter Y cable. Insert the line to mic pad adapter between the aforementioned cables/adapters. This will work.

Rodney

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[Robin Probyn]

Did a test recording to Olympus voice trek V-41… not as fancy as the LS-10..

1 Audio only was fine with the -40 padding… (tape out is -10) if anything maybe padded too much.. but way better than the -10 straight into the same recorder.. mic level..

2 Time code was very load… hard to tell on very rudimentary levels I can see from the recorder,and playing back on quicktime from computer.. I cant separate the channels.. but the cable has a built in- 50 db pad.. so I guess its ok.. I dont have a TC reader or anything so not sure how to test 100% that all is fine..

Seemed the stereo 1/8 out from tape out A channel worked fine…?

Thanks again

[Greg Curda]

Hi Robin,

What a journey of audio level and connector compatibility you have been on!!! Sound is so simple in its complexity… I think if you stick with the three layer level concept, +4, -10, -50 and apply your math skills you will 99.9% always be OK.

TC recorded on an audio channel likes to sit at -10 to -12 dB VU…at least that’s the conventional wisdom…things may have changed, but likely not. It is also an annoying sound. So if you’re shipping a
-10 TC level and you’re padding 50dB that’s -60…not unheard of, but maybe a little low. As long as your synchronizer is happy, that’s what counts.

Good input from Ty and Rodney…

G

[Robin Probyn]

Hi Greg

Yes its been an interesting road.. been asked a few times over the years for this TC/Audio thing,used to be tape,now MP3.So eventually I thought actually there is going to be more of this than less,as the tech improves.. and prod companies realise this is pretty convenient them… although an added burden,hassle for us in the field.. to be honest..

I bought a purpose built cable for transcription.. audio mic level.. which I believe I have now,and TC with -50 db built in… all based on a mic level input.. so I guess Iam safe.. audio only certainly is fine.. a bit low if anything… but Iam told anyway its a bit of a balancing act with the TC also..

I guess until I actually have a job for it I wont know for sure… but in theory I think Iam within the limits..???? I padded the audio.. but the TC side of the cable is meant to be already set to go…. with the -50 pad.. down to mic level.. so if it doesnt work I,d be pissed off.. 🙂 unfortunately my mixer tape out is -10 and not mic level.. but all I had to do was buy the pad..

Dont know anything about stereo jacks into mono outputs(I was told my mixer mini jack outputs were mono) but the stereo jack seems to work fine?? Iam I missing somthing here?

Thanks

[Greg Curda]

Hi Robin,

You know, the proof is always “how does it sound?’ I haven’t done the transcription thing for a while, but then it was on cassette (!!!) and no TC. I had a look at your cable, but not the recorder, but I can’t imagine why the only input would be mic level. Anyway, sounds like it’s sorted.

When talking about connectors, make a clear distinction between jack and plug. Or you can use the terms male and female. It makes discussion easier. I forgot what mixer you have, sometimes the tape out is stereo (TRS), sometimes mono (TR). Try to find out for sure, but for now, as long as it works, you’re OK..You might want to lay some test files into a FCP or ProTools session (if you have access), or Soundtrack Pro, to listen and look at the result. Best to make sure you’re getting what you think you’re getting…

G