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Trouble with rendering videos (DVD Architect compatible)
Hello, im new here in the hope to find a solution.
I simply want to burn my videos with DVD Architect.
The files i want to burn are in the following format:container: Mpeg-4
video format: Mpeg-4 Visual
audio format: AACVideo filesize: around 60MB
Further information:
General
Complete name : C:\Konvertiert\German\testfile.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 58.4 MiB
Duration : 17mn 19s
Overall bit rate : 471 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-03-17 11:11:29
Tagged date : UTC 2010-03-17 11:11:42
Writing application : mp4creator 1.6.1dVideo
ID : 1
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Simple@L1
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID : 20
Duration : 17mn 19s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 370 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 1 057 Kbps
Width : 320 pixels
Height : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 18.000 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.268
Stream size : 45.9 MiB (79%)
Encoded date : UTC 2010-03-17 11:11:29
Tagged date : UTC 2010-03-17 11:11:42Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 17mn 19s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 98.8 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 124 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 12.2 MiB (21%)
Encoded date : UTC 2010-03-17 11:11:42
Tagged date : UTC 2010-03-17 11:11:42So today i tried to create a DVD. Firstly I created some Menus with DVD architect and then i linked the video file with the mentioned format in the menu. After the process where it saves it to the computer it stoped at like around 26%. There was no error message, but the time left increased to 7h !
After i waited a while i had to cancel it.So what is the problem here? And how can i solve it ? Should i render the video firstly with Vegas or what should i do?
I am searching days long for a solution.
Best Greetings
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6 Replies
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For a standard definition DVD, DVD Architect will only accept either a DV-AVI file or an MPEG-2 (video) and AC-3 (Audio) file so that’s what you have to encode (render) out of Vegas to give to it.
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Thank you for the post.
But i still got some questions about it.
1) Can you give me a short explanation of the options i need to choose in vegas to make them DVD Architect optimized? What formats should i choose and should i change some settings before rendering?
2) One problem is also that if i render the videos to Mpeg-2/AAC the estimated filesize in DVD Architect increases from about 50MB to around 300-600MB for only 1 Video.
But i got around 20 low quality videos. And if i render them to a DVD Architect format i would not be able to burn them to a 4,7 GB DVD.The only solution i can imagine on this is to firstly create the completed DVD files and then to Shrink the huge file with DVD Shrink up to 2-3 times so it reduces the size to 4,7 GB. Would this work? Or is there a better solution ?
Thank you guys !
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First, I’m afraid I feel the need to clarify Mike’s post. DVD Architect will accept several formats besides MPEG2. But whatever you give it, it’s going to re-encode into MPEG2 because that’s the format used by DVDs. (I know Mike knows this, but the way his post is worded is a bit unclear, I think.) It’s this re-encoding that will take a long time in DVD Architect — especially if the file(s) you’ve given it is something highly compressed like MP4.
To get an MPEG2 out of Vegas that DVD Architect won’t have to re-encode, select MPEG2 for the filetype and choose the appropriate DVD Architect video stream template. This will output a [i]video only[/i] file. Do a second render for the audio and choose Dolby Digital AC3 or WAV (former is more standard).
One other option is render / encode your videos as AVI (using a DV template if you’ve got lots of room on your harddrive), give those to DVD Architect, and let it do the MPEG2 encode. After you’ve added your files to DVD Architect, go File > Optimize DVD and use the Fit to Disc feature. DVD Architect will calculate the bitrate to make everything fit.
Bottom line, there’s not getting around it: Your files will have to be MPEG2 by the time they’re burned to the disc — whether Vegas does it or DVD Architect does it. Authored DVDs use MPEG2. Period.
Now, with regard to those 20 low quality videos of yours… What’s the total time length all together? With standard DVD bitrates, you can get up to around two hours on a disc. One hour or so if you use a high bitrate (higher quality, and probably not worth it if you’re starting out with crappy quality) or around three hours or so with a low bitrate (higher quality). Try to get more time than that, and you’re asking for trouble.
If these are, like, really poor quality, skip DVD Architect and just make a data disc with your original files. It won’t play on every DVD player, and you won’t get a menu, but you’ll get out of it what you put into it — “20 low quality videos.” 😉
Rob
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Thank you for the nice post !
The Videos got around 10 hours of playtime.
And i really hardly want to have a Menu, so i can have a very cool collection.
But would this be possible:
1) Render all 20 videos to the wanted Formats (Mpeg-2/AC3)
2) Create UNCOMPRESSED/UNOPTIMIZED Audio/Video TS folders with DVD Architect, so that i get a filesize of around 20 GB
3) Shrink all of them with DVD Shrink to around 4,7 GBOnce i have tried it out to shrink such a Video/Audio TS Testfile of around 2GB. The result was that i got a 100-200 MB Video/Audio TS File that was playable with the VLC Media Player.
So could this be possible with all of the 20 vids ?And another question ist, if i need to render the vids to a seperate Mpeg-2 video and a seperate AC3 audio or could i just create a mpeg2 file that includes video+audio ?
What is less trouble causing ?Thank you for your help.
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Rob, thanks for the clarification on file types.
I’ve been using Vegas/DVDA for so long that I assume that everyone knows that a render to MPEG-2 & AC-3 will avoid DVDA having to re-encode your video. -
Hi – new here and to video … follow-up question(s);
1 – I notice that i can have, say a 4.1G mpg (mpeg 2) file I’ve rendered from Vegas that contains video and audio, yet DVD-A will tell me that it is too large to fit on the disc. If I ignore the warnings, it gets so far and then says it can’t fit and stops. I thought the DVD WAS basically an mpg in VOB wrapper, so I wouldn’t expect it to add a whole lot more and would expect my 4.1G mpg to fit. what’s going on here?
2 – a VERY common workflow for me is to
A) copy a VHS to DVD (someone’s home movie usually) on a standalone VHS-DVD machine
B) rip that DVD to my computer – usually using VOB files directly,
C) Do some editing in Vegas and then render to mpeg 2
D) use DVD-A to import that mpeg-2, make menu and then burn new DVD (which is where I’m having issue described in #1)Is there a better way to do this?
TIA,
KenM
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