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  • HELP PLEASE! Export to Tape for SD TV broadcast… Sony Vegas

    Posted by Krish Nightstar on February 20, 2010 at 11:44 pm

    Hi guys,

    Im a student studying film at university, everyone is saying final cut pro is the best and Sony Vegas is just a bunch of crap. The standard of work iam produceing on vegas is a lot better than what others are produceing on final cut pro however..

    Is Sony Vegas really that bad? Justs because iam useing windows and have not got £1000s of pounds to fork out on a MAC does that mean i cant cut it in the cutting room?

    OK to the point, ive recently started doing music videos, one of these videos that i have done in vegas needs to be exported to tape for TV broadcast here in the UK… How would i go about this process, as all i need to do is render an adequate video file and then give it to the guys at uni to put onto tape, ironicly on Final cut pro… seeing as i dont have a capture deck here at home…

    What are the best settings to export the video as, and then take to a lab to put onto tape for broadcast?

    I kno it sounds like a mess but i really believe if i can do this i would have really proved that Vegas is not to be knocked at all..

    Please Help guys, my first post and i would be really gratefull

    K

    Erik Davis replied 16 years, 2 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Rex Brown

    February 21, 2010 at 4:14 am

    You might ask the people that will be dubbing it to tape which format they prefer. Maybe like MP4?

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  • Krish Nightstar

    February 21, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    I see, but i thought Mpeg4 formats were only really good for viewing on portable devices, the quality will be very bad on broadcast.

    I was thinking to export from vegas as a uncompressed AVI with a PAL DV template and then import this into Final cut in order to use the tape deck for printing…

    I ddnt think our Final Cut Pro at uni liked .AVI formats as it was windows… Do you know maybe if there could be any other PC to MAC formats templates i could use or customise to ensure that this process runs smoothly? My main concern is loss of quality…

    Many Thanks

    K

  • Mike Kujbida

    February 21, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    An uncompressed .mov file would work although it would be be very large.
    You can also try a .mov file using the QuickTime animation codec option.

  • Krish Nightstar

    February 21, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    I see, great so should i use these settings to render the clip out? or should i change a few specifications?

    Many Thanks

    K

  • John Rofrano

    February 21, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    so should i use these settings to render the clip out? or should i change a few specifications?

    PAL DV is interlaced so for Field Order I would select Lower field first. Also for the Video Format use DVCPRO – PAL. This will give you DV video in a Quicktime MOV container.

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  • Mike Kujbida

    February 21, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    That should work but understand that the resulting file will be very large.
    For example, I just rendered a 15 sec. miniDV clip as uncompressed mov and it was 615MB. in size (the original file was only 60 MB. in size).
    Using the Animation codec lowered this to 158 MB.

    The other issue that I’m not certain about is the use of Progressive instead of Lower or Upper field.
    I would see what your source footage is (File – Properties) and set the render mode to match it.
    When I set my test render to Lower field first, it came in slightly larger at 183 MB. which is still a lot smaller than uncompressed.
    In my opinion, you have nothing to gain other than peace of mind by doing an uncompressed render.

    If you really want to be safe, render an uncompressed and an Animation version in Progressive and Lower (or Upper) field first.
    That way, you’re covered for everything.

  • Krish Nightstar

    February 22, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Great stuff, thanks a lot.. the thing is the origional footage was in HD and my laptop captured it as .m2t files… I know the quality is being knocked down to SD but that does not matter to me as it is SD broadcast.

    I guess i will try out the lower feild first method you mentioned.. im not sure i noted and “Animation” option my my version of Sony Vegas, which seemed strange to me… iam useing Vegas 8…

    If i do not have an animation option i shall try Dvpro like was previously suggested..

    Thanks a lot for your help i really appreciate it..

    K

  • Erik Davis

    February 22, 2010 at 8:47 pm

    Krishan,

    Don’t forget about Sony MXF. I use MXF files for bringing video files into Final Cut Pro and from there,output to tape. The originals in my case were XDCAM HD that I down convert to the 720×486 (I’m NTSC) IMX 50mb setting. There is an IMX PAL preset for rendering in Vegas as well. The file size will be much smaller with MXF than with the Quicktime uncompressed and you shouldn’t have any quality problems. I haven’t had any complaints from NBC, CNN, FOX or MSNBC so you should be good to go.

    Let me know if you need to know more but keep in mind I am 8 hours ahead of US time so it is about midnight where I am right now.

    Erik

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