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How can I bring footage with different frame size/frame rate into one project?
Hi All:
I am trying to put together a reel with footage from 5 different films.
4 of them have the same properties:
Frame Size: 720 x 405
Frame Rate: 23.976
Field Order: Progressive
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000
Audio: 48/16The last film has these properties:
Frame Size: 720 x 480
Frame Rate: 29.970
Field Order: Lower Field First
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0.9091
Audio: 44/16What is the best way to end up with ONE project, combining these two different sets of properties? Should I render the 5th film a certain way, how can I combine it with the other 4 in ONE project?
Thanks in advance very much for any and all suggestions and help. Much appreciated.
Best,
Chris
Best,
Chris Forsyth
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What is your final output format? I would start a project that matches the output format that you want the final footage. Then add the other footage and crop as necessary if needed. The first 4 are 16:9 and the last is 4:3 DV. Depending out your output, you may want to use DV Widescreen.
~jr
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Frame rate isn’t going to be an issue. Frame size isn’t necessarily an issue: drop all the footage on the timeline and Vegas won’t have any problems, but if you want to get rid of the black bars you see top and bottom.
Here’s how I’d do it:
(1) Project settings, 720×480 NTSC DV (PAR 0.919).
(2) Import your footage. The one clip will be fine, the other 4 will have letterboxing.
(3) Click the event Pan/Crop tool on one of the four:
(4) Un-toggle the Keep Aspect button.
(5) Squash the crop frame in left and right until the clip fills the preview window’s frame. (Width something like 545, Height still 405.)
(6) Repeat (but the easy way will be to right click the keyframe in the pan/crop dialog, select Copy, then paste that keyframe into the other three clips).______
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I want the final output to be widescreen – 16:9, and will be rendering it to an uncompressed .mov file, for use in conversion to a flash file to be displayed and played on a personal website. So the first 4 fit the output ratio perfectly, while the last one appears looking funny if I bring it into a project that has the properties set for 16:9 display. it has not only letterboxing on the top and bottom – but also in the right and left also. So do you mean that I should bring in the final clip to the project anyway, and crop the parts of the frame that are black around the edges out? is it that simple? It appears to make that film clip look very close up. Am I understanding this correctly?
Thanks,
Chris
Best,
Chris Forsyth
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> the last one appears looking funny if I bring it into a project that has the properties set for 16:9 display.
That is a problem. Frame Size: 720 x 480 and Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0.9091 is NOT 16:9 it’s 4:3. If Vegas thinks the media is 16:9 then you must change this in the media properties to the correct aspect.
> So do you mean that I should bring in the final clip to the project anyway, and crop the parts of the frame that are black around the edges out? is it that simple? It appears to make that film clip look very close up. Am I understanding this correctly?
I would set the project to 720×405 PAR 1.000, progressive. The first 4 will match perfectly. Bring the last file in and make sure Vegas recognizes it as 4:3. Then open Pan/Crop on the last file and right-click and select Match Output Aspect. This will add a crop that will match the rest of the media. Yes, it will be zoomed in because the video is not wide enough but that’s the only option if you want them all 16:9.
~jr
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Thanks John…One more question:
The footage that i have that is 720×480 – was given to me, so I don’thave the raw footage. But the file I have…while the video media properties say 720×480 (which is the actual portion of the screen that the video takes up), the actual clip I have has top and bottom letterboxing / borders on it – so the actual screen display of the clip including the letterboxing is 720×528. I’d like to export this without the letterboxing to 720×480 without the letterboxing or borders on top and bottom, and then bring THAT into the 720×405 project and do as you said. How can I get this back to an output file of 720×480 without the top and bottom borders? If I simply crop it also removes part of the right and left side of the actual picture – is there a way to crop just the top and bottom borders off of this?
Thanks,
Chris
Best,
Chris Forsyth
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Hi Douglass:
I am using Flix Pro to convert to flash, I don’t see a way to render to a flash file directly from within Vegas – and in the manual for Flix Pro (On2 Tech), they say to render an uncompressed .mov or uncompressed .avi file for conversion to flash using Flix Pro.
Am I misunderstanding the terminology here? If i have the reel put together within vegas – consisting of 5 clips back to back – how do I get that reel converted to flash without rendering a file from vegas to be converted by Flix pro? Is there another file format I should be rendering to for conversion to flash within Flix Pro?
Thanks,
Chris
Best,
Chris Forsyth
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will be rendering it to an uncompressed .mov file, for use in conversion to a flash file to be displayed and played on a personal website
Unless the majority of your source footage is uncompressed (I’d be stunned if it is), then why would you render to an uncompressed codec of any kind? It’s monstrous waste of space, time, and potentially damaging to the integrity of your final product.
All those considerations are before rendering to Flash from the uncompressed source master (it’ll be slower).Douglas Spotted Eagle
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> How can I get this back to an output file of 720×480 without the top and bottom borders? If I simply crop it also removes part of the right and left side of the actual picture – is there a way to crop just the top and bottom borders off of this?
This is not possible. If the sides are cut off using the correct aspect ratio then that’s all you have to work with. Changing that would change the aspect and cause black bars somewhere else.
If you really want to do this, you could crop just the top and bottom by telling the Pan/Crop tool to ignore the aspect ratio. Just hold down the Ctrl key while you change the crop and it will adjust to any size you want.
There is no need to render out. The crop should be all you need.
~jr
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thanks for all the great info.
i have the same problem and have done the pan and crop option, however, i need to make a multi camera track and all the cropping information is lost during the take sequence. any other ideas.
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