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AVI Issues
I have created uncompressed Animation codec QuickTime movies in After Effects. I then open them up in QuickTimePro and they play just fine. I then export to my client’s preferred format, AVI. I’ve done this in the past with success, but now in QuickTime 7.6 they do not work. Even the files I exported 6 months ago that played fine at that time, now will not play, showing only the white frame.
Upon recommendations from the QuickTime Support’s discussions page, I have installed both the DivX and Perian bundles and I am still get the white frame in QuickTime when I try to play an AVI file. Does anyone have any solutions on how to get AVI files to play in QuickTime?
Below are the specs on both my original render and my QT exported file.
My original After Effects rendered QuickTime movie is:
Inspector
Format: Animation codec, 12320 x 24, Millions
FPS: 29.97 fps
Data Size: 358.55 MB
Data Rate: 100.05 mbits/s
Duration: :30 secondsProperties
Format: AnimationMy QuickTimePro exported AVI file is:
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Format: ” codec, 12320 x 24, Millions
FPS: 29.97 fps
Data Size: 762.20 MB
Data Rate: 212.68 mbits/s
Duration: :30 secondsProperties
Format: (none listed)I suspect the AVI codec format of ” may have something to do with this issue, but what does ” mean and how do I fix ”
QuickTime Pro 7.6
After Effects CS4
MacPro 3,1
Mac OS X (10.5.6)
Quad-Core Intel
3GHz
8 Cores
6GB RAM
Boot MP31.006C.B05Scott Skaja
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8 Replies
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first off, avi isn’t a codec, it’s a container (often called ‘wrapper’). mpeg, dv, divx and apple’s ‘animation’ are codecs. you can have an avi that is encoded as mpeg2, dv, or divx (and many other codecs), but they are still avi’s… same goes with .mov’s.
so the fact the the ‘format’ for the avi says none listed, probably means that you don’t have the codec that the avi was encoded as…
it sounds like you are choosing a codec when you export an avi from quicktime pro… what codec (or format) are you choosing? you will want to choose one that you have available on whatever player you are using to play back the avi.
Kevin Camp
Senior Designer
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Kevin,
Thanks for the info on AVI files, I’m always learning.
What I’m trying to do is export an uncompressed AVI file out of QuickTime Pro. So I open my rendered uncompressed .mov file in QuickTime Pro, go to File/Export, select the export dialogue that reads “Movie to AVI”. In Options, I have the Video Compression setting set to None.
Is there something I’m missing/not doing correctly?
Scott Skaja
edit/design/animation
http://www.scottskaja.com -
i don’t have quicktime pro… so i have to ask what are the other settings for video compression?
also, how are you viewing the avi once it is exported from quicktime pro? i don’t have an uncompressed avi test, but i think my mac version of ae should read them… is that what you are checking them out on?
Kevin Camp
Senior Designer
KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW -
The other settings in the Compression type pulldown would be:
BMP
Cinepak
DV-PAL
DV/DVCPRO-NTSC
DVCPRO-PAL
DVCPRO50-NTSC
DVCPRO50-PAL
NoneKeep in mind my client has requested an uncompressed (None) file.
When the AVI is finished being exported, I open it back up in QuickTime. My thinking is the application that created the file should be able to play it back, no? I did try to play the AVI file back in After Effects, but had the same result (white frame). VLC acted strange, attempting to play the video file
Scott Skaja
edit/design/animation
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i was wondering what other codec options were available just to see if you tried one of the options if you might be able to read the file…. trying to figure out if the problem is reading an avi, or reading the uncompressed codec…
you might give that a try…
you might also try ‘exporting’ the avi straight from ae (open comp, the file>export>avi…). it looks like you have the exact same codec options as quicktime pro. i have quicktime 7.6 (non-pro) and i was able to open an avi (none) exported from ae (cs3) in both ae and qt7.6.
if that doesn’t work, try creating a short, very simple d1 standard comp and ‘export’ that from ae as an avi, then see if qt can read that… maybe the unusual frame size is messing with the avi (you mentioned 13000 x 24)….
Kevin Camp
Senior Designer
KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW -
Kevin,
I exported it directly from AE and had the same result. I did, however, open up the AVI files in question in the application MPEG Streamclip and they played fine.
Scott Skaja
edit/design/animation
http://www.scottskaja.com -
it’s good news that another app is able to open and play the files. it’s curious that ae and quicktime are having problems with them…
at some point you may want to try and track down the problem… it may be that you ahve a 3rd-party codec that is interfering…
i’m assuming you have a mac… what you might do is go to library>quicktime and pull all quicktime components (codecs) to a folder on the desktop. do the same for the files in users>username>library>quicktime. leave the system>library>quicktime files alone.
try an export to avi and see if you can open it in quicktime or ae…. if you can, then you’ll need to re-introduce the components one by one, or in small groups until you can find the one that is causing problems. then try to download the latest version of that component.
if that doesn’t help, you may want to run the disk utility (applications>utilities), repair permissions and run the verify disk to make sure there aren’t any problems…
if that doesn’t help, you might try to download just the quicktime installer from apple downloads and reinstall qt7.6 and reinstall.
Kevin Camp
Senior Designer
KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW -
I am running a MacPro (10.5.6).
I will try your Quicktime component test and/or reinstalling Quicktime 7.6 when I can pull my head out of “deadline mode”.
I have a simultaneous thread going on the Apple/Support/Quicktime/Discussions forum and someone there recommended repairing permissions, which I did this morning, but still have the issue. I did notice however, that it was not able to repair all of the permissions. I’ll admit there was some lingo in the report box on the permissions that couldn’t be repaired that might as well be hieroglyphics to me.
I will certainly reply back to you/this thread when I find a resolution. Everyone in my community that I have spoken to about this problem says I am lucky that I have been able to play AVI files in QuickTime as long as I have, they have all found it to be quite problematic and avoid it at all costs.
Scott Skaja
edit/design/animation
http://www.scottskaja.com
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