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  • rendering

    Posted by Shelly Gramatky on March 14, 2009 at 7:13 am

    Hi,
    Need serious help. I have a 1-hour .vf file completed and ready to render (8.0 version of vegas platinum). Every time I attempt to make a movie (to take it to dvd architect 4.5) it begins the rendering process and shuts down. I have gone as far as cutting down the project so it isn’t so big, but that has not helped. I have only been able to render 1 minutes worth. I have attempted to clean my hard drive thinking that again it is too much for my computer to handle. I have also tried saving the entire file with the source media – and deleting all of the raw footage so that I can have more space. I also have a 2nd computer to which I downloaded the upgraded 9.0 version and attempted to import the vf file using an external hard drive to transfer it to that computer. It transferred but I cannot open the file without he 9.0 crashing as well. I’m out of ideas.

    Shelly Gramatky replied 17 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 11 Replies
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  • Mike Kujbida

    March 14, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    What kinds of files do you have in the project?
    Do you have any really large (like 4000 x 4000 pixels) still images in the project?
    If so, resize them (no more than twice project size unless you need to deep zooms) and try again.

  • John Rofrano

    March 14, 2009 at 5:54 pm

    > What kinds of files do you have in the project?

    I believe this is the key question to answer and just to elaborate on Mike’s question:

    What is the file format of the source media? (avi, mov, mpg?)

    Where did it come from? (camcorder, still camera, fraps, YouTube?)

    What codec does it use for video and audio? (DV, HDV, DivX, Xvid?)

    If it’s something like DivX or Xvid or anything from YouTube, or any MP4 format from a $99 HD camera, that is most probably the problem.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Shelly Gramatky

    March 14, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    Hi
    Okay, I am way better at editing than figuring out what the behind the scenes are of the project. I looked at the properties of one of my zoom in frames, and it says the pixel aspect ratio is 0.9091 (NTSC DV). I used the standard editing template showing 720x480x32. Most of the footage is from a Mini DV handycam from Sony, 2007 version. Other footage gets ripped from DVD’s made from someone elses handycam, 2001 version. So VOB files, MPG, wmv or wav files for the audio, jpg for photos. Am I looking in the right places for the info you’re asking?
    I was able to delete parts of the project and burn DVDs of a smaller version of the project. But literally it could only render less than 10min of the project at a time.

  • Mike Kujbida

    March 14, 2009 at 10:10 pm

    Are you running XP or Vista?
    Do you know what type of processor you have?
    How much RAM do you have?
    Did any of the images come from a digital still camera?
    If yes, what size (in pixels) are they?

  • Shelly Gramatky

    March 14, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    I work on my notebook – which i have been told that’s not a good idea – its vista-32… 4memoryRAM – only 1.8 duo CPU (running vs.8vegas)- so I got a new computer – and downloaded version 9.0 vegas – it has 8.00GB RAM and quad core processor 2.3 GZ – vista 64bit – so for future I should be way better.
    But that doesn’t help me with my 1 project on my notebook. I’ve tried transferring it through external hard drive onto my new computer hard drive – that went fine – but my 9.0 version won’t open it – gets to 26% and freezes for hours.
    Just trying to salvage this one project.
    I do have jpeg files in my project – once you guys caught my attention to the pixels – i do see they are huge for the photos – so I am taking those out – but there’s only 2 photos in the entire project. But maybe that will help a little – working on that now.
    You guys are great – more support than I’ve found anywhere- any other ideas?

  • John Rofrano

    March 14, 2009 at 11:46 pm

    > Other footage gets ripped from DVD’s made from someone elses handycam, 2001 version. So VOB files, MPG, wmv or wav files for the audio, jpg for photos.

    The correct way to import Handycam DVD footage is with File | Import | DVD Camcorder Disc. Is that what you did? The fact that you have VOB files on the timeline tells me you did not. Is it possible to replace this footage? (although this probably means re-editing those parts) I would also suspect the WMV files. I like using either wave or mp3 for audio.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Mike Kujbida

    March 14, 2009 at 11:48 pm

    Shelly, there was no need to get rid of the images.
    IrfanView (it’s free) is an excellent app that allows you to resize images, convert to other formats and much more.
    You have a lot of different media in this project and MPG and WMV files can sometimes be a bit difficult for Vegas to process.
    The other thing to try is to render to DV-AVI first (use Best mode) and then use that to make your AVI.

  • Shelly Gramatky

    March 15, 2009 at 12:09 am

    Hi
    I got the VOB file from a DVD – I saved the DVD to my hard drive then imported the file into vegas – it gave me a VOB file. My mpg files are from the camcorder. I also import these files to my hard drive first because vegas doesn’t recognize my camera but windows does. I have never been able to use the capture mode straight from a camera using vegas.
    I can replace the wmv files – there aren’t that many.
    I take it I need to render things differently at the beginning of importing files. So does this mean I’m pretty much out of luck now for my current project?
    I don’t know how to sift through what works and what doesn’t in my current project – so much is in it.

  • Shelly Gramatky

    March 15, 2009 at 6:51 am

    Thanks for helping me. I was able to change out some of the files. I was able to burn my project in halves – and am putting it together on my new computer. 2 questions left…for now anyway.

    1. Totally seems like a basic question – but I cannot find the answer anywhere…I installed Vegas 9.0 on new computer and usually when I import video and audio – you can see the event on the timeline in detail – meaning if its a video of a dog – you can see the clip of the dog on the timeline. I can see a blank event and if I click on it I can see the media is there by looking at the preview box – but I can’t see it on the timeline – its driving me crazy.

    2. so I don’t screw up a project again, can you clear up with me what format I’m supposed to be using in vegas? I am used to mpg and not sure I’ve worked with avi – so how do I get it in that format? and if I’m supposed to render the stuff before – how do i do that?

    thanks a ton you both have saved my project.

  • John Rofrano

    March 15, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    > …I installed Vegas 9.0 on new computer and usually when I import video and audio – you can see the event on the timeline in detail – meaning if its a video of a dog – you can see the clip of the dog on the timeline. I can see a blank event and if I click on it I can see the media is there by looking at the preview box – but I can’t see it on the timeline – its driving me crazy.

    I have never seen this behavior and I can’t imagine why you are not seeing the video in the clips. I don’t think there is an option to turn this on and off but maybe there is. Check the View menu and see if there is an option that’s not turned on but I can’t imagine what it might be.

    > so I don’t screw up a project again, can you clear up with me what format I’m supposed to be using in vegas? I am used to mpg and not sure I’ve worked with avi – so how do I get it in that format? and if I’m supposed to render the stuff before – how do i do that?

    Vegas Movie Studio Platinum works best with DV AVI files. The footage from your miniDV Handycam is perfect for editing. It also handles HDV/AVCHD files but they are tougher to edit. MPEG from a camcorder are sometimes OK but people who want to edit their videos should avoid DVD camcorders like the plague. DVD formats are meant for deliver not editing. VOB files contain an MPEG stream and lots of other information like chapter points, and captions, etc. They are not meant for editing. WMV is another deliver format that is tough for editing. Forget about DivX or Xvid from YouTube. Vegas flat-out doesn’t like it.

    > thanks a ton you both have saved my project.

    I’m glad we could help.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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