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  • DV tapes transferring to 1 second clips

    Posted by Steve Kerr on December 22, 2008 at 11:33 pm

    Hey There.

    I’m new on these boards, but whenever I’ve searched for answers to my Sony Vegas problems on google, this page comes up so I figured I’d sign up.

    I have recently aquired a Canon ZR900 Mini DV camcorder to transfer some of my DV tapes to my computer (I had an old DV camcorder that I had to put down, so I aquired this one to transfer the tapes over).

    I have transfered many tapes with it so far… and I found that some of them aren’t transferring properly. The most recent, for example, had the first 3 or 4 minutes transfer without an issue, but the remaining 50-60 minutes of the tape are only being displayed in one second “thumbnails” of the video. So when I hit play, it’s like skipping through the entire tape. The capture process completed with 0 dropped frames, and I was watching it for the entire 60 minutes of the tape, with no signs of problems… so you can imagine my frustration in finding that it only captured about 4 minutes in total footage on the timeline.

    I checked the location that they were saved at… and those files are the same…. 1 second in length.

    Any help on this would be great. Thanks for your time!

    George Wingard replied 17 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 9 Replies
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  • George Wingard

    December 23, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Mini dv and hdv are alike in the sense that sometimes if you play a tape from one manufacturer in another manufacturers device you get cat in the hat style fun! If you don’t want that kind of fun get a loaner that is the same brand as your old one kind of close in model # and you should be fine.

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  • Steve Kerr

    December 23, 2008 at 12:37 am

    Well vegas gives me the option of doing it HDV or DV, so could I switch that? I’ve been doing it through DV so far.

    I was able to transfer a number of tapes that I had filmed with the old camera (Panasonic) with the Canon… so why would certain tapes not work? (I guess your cat in the hat comment explains it). Are there any other options to solving this? It was hard finding someone with a mini DV camcorder, I don’t want to have to go through it again if I don’t have to (but I will… if I absolutely have to)

    Thanks for your response!

  • George Wingard

    December 23, 2008 at 12:44 am

    If you have transferred others fine than I would not say that is not the case…Does it play smoothly on the canon? Have you restarted lately? were you running any other programs at the time of capture, web surfing file transfering etc…? have you re-tried? What transfer Method, Firewire I assume…are you using OHCI compliant 1394 firewire card… If so is it Texas Instrements? What are your Power settings for your computer in control panell set all to always on for hdd, Monitor etc.. PS…Is this tape Of you Shooting Three’s, if so try transfering shooting free throws first lol

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  • Steve Kerr

    December 23, 2008 at 12:51 am

    Actually, the first time I attempted transfer, I had over 1000 dropped frames over the course of a half hour, haha. So I reconfigured my startup programs, restarted my computer, and transferred again smoothly, without a single dropped frame. (with no other programs other than an antivirus running)

    I first transferred approximately 15 DV tapes about a month ago. Out of the 15, I’ve discovered approximately 13 were transferred with this camera without incident. I recently moved and found two important DV tapes that I didn’t transfer, so I got the camera again and am having this difficulty. Out of curiosity I went back to my old footage and found two tapes that have the same problem that I’m having now.

    I film live concerts for local bands for a living, and I have edited full shows with the tapes from the last time I transfered with this camera, so I know for a fact that I’ve had some videos transfer without any issues. I’ve also done a wedding with the footage as well, with not even so much as a dropped frame… which is leaving me baffled here.

    Would it help at all if I broke the capture up into smaller pieces? For example, the first couple minutes transferred fine… instead of trying to transfer the entire footage in one go, should I interrupt it mid-song and try it that way?

    Thank you so much for your help. It is so relieving to find someone who can give me some input here.

  • George Wingard

    December 23, 2008 at 5:09 am

    you have a AMD?(if yes then I cant help you) What is the make of your computer? are you using Firewire? if so is it OHCI compliant TI? First you need to run a memory test, if thats ok, download Ccleaner(freeware)…unplug your network, turn off your firewall, clean up windows with Ccleaner(freeware), disk cleanup then, defragment…Restart update your bios, chipset, graphics card, hard drive drivers, sound card drivers…, uninstall vegas, shutdown, install vegas 8c restart unplug network turn off firewall go to vegas!… good luck!

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  • Stephen Mann

    December 23, 2008 at 7:49 am

    “Actually, the first time I attempted transfer, I had over 1000 dropped frames over the course of a half hour,”

    ONE dropped frame is too many. Normally dropped frames happens because your Hard-Disk can’t keep up with the DV data coming from the camera or deck. This many, however, says that something is drastically wrong. Though I’ve never had one, a bad firewire cable could do this, a dying HDD could do it.

    If I understand, you shot the tapes on a Canon ZR900 and are now trying to recapture on another DV camera? Since DV is a standard, it shouldn’t matter. Unless…. You shot in the LP mode. The LP mode is not part of the DV standard. It’s a consumer gimmick that different manufacturers handle differently and if you recorded LP on the Canon and are trying to play it back on a Sony, then you are a proverbial test pilot flying outside the envelope.

    Let us know if this is the case.

    Steve

    Steve Mann
    MannMade Digital Video
    http://www.mmdv.com

  • Steve Kerr

    December 23, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    I think you’ve just answered my question, Stephen.

    This was actually recorded with a Panasonic many years ago, and this tape is the first one I ever recorded…. I probably would have recorded it in LP. Now I am trying to transfer the video with a brand new Canon ZR900 and experiencing difficulties.

    I fixed the dropped frame problem myself… it was due to having too many programs running in the background. I changed all the startup utilities to minimize the computer usage and the last transfer I attempted had 0 dropped frames.

    Thanks for your help! now I need to track down an old miniDV camera to try to transfer the LP…. or is there any other way for me to do it?

  • George Wingard

    December 23, 2008 at 7:49 pm

    ?

  • George Wingard

    December 23, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    yay, nope find one in a pawn shop and make them a deal they cant refuse… Rent it with some money down. video of their fine establishment for a commercial?

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