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  • 16:9 – Widescreen capture / render

    Posted by Johnny Shanton on November 22, 2008 at 10:19 pm

    I video’d something in 16:9 for the first time. When capturing with Sony Video Capture (VCapture tied to either 6.0 .. 4.0 ..or 3.0) .. for some reason advanced capture doesn’t work (this could be another problem…just have always had the timecode in/out option available). Anways..i moved back to the plain vanilla capture tab and hit record. The video on the capture screen looks like its trying to read it as 4:3 as the individuals are all “stretched”. I grabbed a clip and went to test render it….making some adjustment to the aspect ratio etc… but even the rendered version ends up full screen on the dvd and all the people are “stretched”. Can anyone please help in offering some advice as to how i should capture / render / print to DVD ….this video since it was recorded as 16:9?

    Thank you!!

    John Rofrano replied 17 years, 5 months ago 2 Members · 5 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    November 23, 2008 at 4:52 am

    What camera did you use? Does it really shoot 16:9? Is this DV, HDV, or HD? After you capture, open the properties on the clip and make sure the pixel aspect is set to 1.2121 for NTSC DV Widescreen or 1.3333 for HDV.

    ~jr

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  • Johnny Shanton

    November 23, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Hi John …thanks for the help,….

    I’m using a Sony Mini-DV Camera. Model DCR-HC62. When i play from my camera direct into the TV …it plays as “widescreen” (black bars on top / bottom) and the individuals filmed all look normal …(pic is not stretched).

    your comment
    “After you capture, open the properties on the clip and make sure the pixel aspect is set to 1.2121 for NTSC DV Widescreen or 1.3333 for HDV.”

    I didn’t know about making that change so i did that on the clip once i had pulled it into Vegas (changing to 1.2121). Thanks!!!

    What should i set my render settings to please?
    (ie. save type: MPEG2 …. template still: DVD NTSC? …..I wasn;t sure if i was to go into “custom” on the render selections page … then under video … and change the aspect ratio to 16:9 display.

    Thanks again for the help !!
    Johnny

  • John Rofrano

    November 23, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Glad setting the PAR to 1.2121 cured the problem. I wonder why Vegas didn’t figure this out for itself. Anyway, you should perform your MPEG2 renders using the DVD Architect NTSC Widescreen video stream template. Then render the audio using the Dolby Digital AC-3 render type with the Stereo DVD template. If you name the files with the same name (with only the extensions being different), DVD Architect will know that the audio and video go together. If you use another DVD authoring program you may have to manually point it to the audio.

    ~jr

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  • Johnny Shanton

    November 23, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    Hi John ..yes changing the pixel aspect did the job. Thanks again …so apprec! After changing that specific to the clip i then went in and test rendered some small clips (and burnt them with Vegas Architect to DVD to view). I grabbed the entire video / audio file on the vegas timeline that i wanted to render and then went to “render as” … “custom” … “clicked the video tab”… and just changed the “aspect ratio” to 16:9. This then changed the template type to (untitled). I rendered like this and it left the audio/video together as one file. I then pulled it to Vegas Architect and created a DVD. It had the audio / video .. and in widescreen format.

    I’ve never rendered the video and audio seperately as you just advised on your latest post. I tried that…making an audio ac3 file as well as a video only file (naming both the same). I dragged/dropped both files over onto Vegas architect. Architect did what you said and combined the audio / video. Very cool.

    2 last questions pls:
    1) when i drag/dropped the audio file and video file over to Architect it did combine them but when i played the video it still showed both files as boxes i could click. So then I had 2 duplicate audio/video combined files on my “finished product” dvd rather than just 1 file to click on. Do you know how i am supposed to pull these files in so that only one will show up on the DVD menu to select when playing on your TV?

    2) if i didn’t render the audio and video seperately and just rendered as i had been by changing aspect ratio to 16:9 (giving me 1 video/audio file). Is there going to be a quality difference between this final product and one where i render the video and audio seperately as you had suggested i do?

    Thank you again …
    Johnny

  • John Rofrano

    November 23, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    > 1)…Do you know how i am supposed to pull these files in so that only one will show up on the DVD menu to select when playing on your TV?

    Just drag one of them not both (usually just the video). DVD Architect is smart enough to pull in the audio. It created two links because you dragged both files. Just drag the video next time.

    > 2) if i didn’t render the audio and video separately and just rendered as i had been by changing aspect ratio to 16:9 (giving me 1 video/audio file). Is there going to be a quality difference between this final product and one where i render the video and audio separately as you had suggested i do?

    Yes, there will be quality loss by not doing this. If you render to MPEG2 audio, which is quite compressed, DVD Architect will take that and further re-compress it as AC3 because MPEG2 audio is not part of the NTSC DVD spec. So by creating your own AC3 file you get better quality because you avoid double encoding. (Note: MPEG2 audio *is* part of the PAL DVD spec so this does not apply to PAL users)

    ~jr

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