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  • balancing audio levels.

    Posted by Mel Perez on March 21, 2008 at 10:58 am

    Hi..would someone be able to tell me how to balance the audio levels of different clips.I have tried several ways with unacceptable results so there must be something i am missing. Am working on a project which involves shooting music events as well as separate interviews, many with varying sound levels.I often load multiple clips to the same track of my timeline to avoid cluttering my workspace with large numbers of tracks.The volume slider seems to affect all the clips on a particular track,and volume envelopes seem to do the same also so i have been adjusting the gain for each individual clip.Some of the interviews are not very loud so i “decrease” the gain on the louder clips until they seem about even with each other, by ear.There seems to be no way to “increase” the volume of softer level clips to match louder ones as they all seem to be loaded into the tracks at their max of 0db.All seems well until i render and burn to dvd.When i play the dvd in a regular player i must turn the volume control of the tv to almost full volume to hear at acceptable levels.I know most dvd’s have more volume overhead than this. Have even turned up the master volume in Vegas,rendered,and burned again to dvd with same results.I assume the 2 master volume controls in Vegas only affect how i hear it in Vegas and not the finished dvd? Would anyone be able to tell me the best procedure i should follow to alleviate future problems like this? Am relatively new to Sony Vegas6.I also have DVD Architect 3.0 & Acid Music Studio 6.Should i be doing any things there? Help please and many thanks…..

    Tim Azevedo replied 10 years, 2 months ago 8 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Don Bloom

    March 21, 2008 at 11:47 am

    the slider on the track level is just that. Track level adjustment. Of course the busses will also affect the track unless of course each clip is set on a seperate track and has a seperate bus.
    The solution? Press “V” insert a volume envelope. Add points and adjust as needed.

    Don

  • Mel Perez

    March 21, 2008 at 6:08 pm

    thanks Don, and to all the helpful people who post in this forum…guess i’ll be looking at the way i use nested veg files also…one thing Sony needs is a better user manual!

  • Sebastien Gravel

    March 24, 2008 at 1:37 am

    I’d also like to add, do not trust your own ear. Use the master level meter and look closely to see the loudness. It’s a good idea to keep at -12db or so. Less chances of distortion when played on DVD.

  • Douglas Spotted eagle

    March 24, 2008 at 3:21 am

    It’s a good idea to keep at -12db or so. Less chances of distortion when played on DVD.

    Care to explain this more deeply? it flies in the face of everything about digital, so I’m probably misunderstanding what you meant here.

    Douglas Spotted Eagle
    VASST

    Certified Sony Vegas Trainer
    Aerial Camera/Instructor

  • Terry Esslinger

    March 25, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    If you are authoring your DVD in DVDA you need to make a couple of changes in the default settings or it will create very low volume. I am not in front of my editing machine right now so I can’t tell you what the cahnges are. Spot will know and might chime in and you can probably search for ‘low volume’ and find the answer as it has been a thread many times.

  • Mike Kujbida

    March 25, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    The changes to make to ensure more consistent DVD levels are as follows (done in Vegas):

    Encode set to AC3;
    Click on Custom tab;
    On the first tab, set diag. norm to” -31″;
    On the last tab marked Preprocessing, set the Line Mode Profile and RF Mode Profile mode to “none”;
    Save this as a preset.

  • Terry Esslinger

    March 26, 2008 at 2:16 am

    Thanks Mike. Knew one of you guys would have the particulars.
    Can’t figure out why the default is what it is.

  • Mel Perez

    March 26, 2008 at 4:04 am

    will try the adjustments and see if it takes care of my problem…thanks for the help…

  • Danny Hays

    March 31, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    Hi Mel, In answer to your original question, yes you can raise the level of the lower level recorded audio. Just right click on one of them in the time line and select switches, normalize. I believe the default is 0dB. You can also lower the level of single audio files in the timeline by placing the curser at the top of the wave until it turns into a hand and then drag down. You’ll see a blue line indicating the level of that event. This will not effect the other audio events in the same track. Hope this helps. Danny

  • Mel Perez

    April 2, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    …well i figured out the track volume envelope thing and added points to adjust the the gain of small portions of individual events on the same track..learned also that i can split events and adjust gain there.. what setting should i set my “master” fader output to when monitoring that none of these adjustments take it into the red clipping zone? -12db? ..in vegas i render to ac3 using settings of -31db/line mode prof.”none”/rf mode “none”..i assume this is for the audio file only?.. i’ll need to render the video separately? Do i save the renders in any particular folder,and if so, will architect 3 know to include both files when i burn my dvd?..sorry for the long-winded question folks,wish i knew enough to make it shorter..thanks again for all the help

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