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Using Multi Cam in Vegas or Excalibur
I have never used the multicam feature before, so bear with me. I just shot a wedding Friday. I shot with 2 cameras. I have both video/audio on the timeline. One camera had a wireless mic that I turned on only when the bride/groom did vows. After that, it was turned off, and continued using on board mic (camera mic). This camera was a DVX100b. The other camera was a Cannon GL2. The audio from that camera seems to be a little less muffled, but seems to pickup every cough, sniffle, and bang going on in the church. I seem to have everything lined up, audio/video wise with both movies, but not sure what to do with the audio. I can no longer edit the audio after mulicam is used, right? Is there a way to use say, the Cannon audio, but use the DVX audio when they do their vows, and then back to the Cannon audio?
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[steveandbelinda] “I can no longer edit the audio after mulicam is used, right?”
Wrong. I always fine-tune the audio after the multi-cam part is completed. If you use the built-in Vegas version, make sure you do NOT include the audio when building the multi-cam track view.
[steveandbelinda] “Is there a way to use say, the Cannon audio, but use the DVX audio when they do their vows, and then back to the Cannon audio?”
Yes. Just use volume envelopes to use as much of each as you want when you want.
Edward Troxel
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Do you think that it is possible to copy the audio to Adobe SoundBooth, clean it up and return it back to the timeline, or will cleaning it up will change the length in some way?
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You should be able to do that. I know lot’s of people use Sound Forge for that. However, Vegas can do a pretty good job as well.
Edward Troxel
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How hard is it to edit two cameras? I have both on timeline and audio seems to match up, but on one camera view, the father is handing the bride off to the groom, and the other camera show the bride and father still half way down the isle. Strange things is, I could understand where one camera could be off sync a little, but if you move on a little farther down the movie, the preist is saying the blessing and both cameras are in sync (both audio & video). How do you figure that one out?
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Did you stop and restart that one camera at some point and it now needs to be resynced?
Edward Troxel
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No, not at all. Everything was during the wedding ceremony. Because I notice in one camera I show the groomsment already standing at the altar. In the other camera, they are walking to the altar. At least 4 points where both cameras are pointed in the same general area, they are off. But the audio is synced up. I have shots of the priest where the audio is exactly with the words. That’s why I can’t understand how video can be off, if the audio is not.
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possible video dropouts in capture-more likely 2 different camera makes running at ever so slightly different speeds.One might be off 1nt of a second and over a period of time it can be quite a bit. Cut the video frame where it goes out of sync and resync as neeed. I’m editing a job for someoneelse right now and he used a Sony and a Panasonic. The 2 aren’t quite perfectly in sync so a little cut and move is in order.
As for audio clean up I would say that for the 45 or 50 weddings a year that I do 95% of my audio work is done in Vegas and it works very well.
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Could also be that while you were slideing the clips around on the timeline you had the “ignore event grouping” button active. The result would be that your video and audio would be unlocked relative to each other, hence slipping the audio and video out of sync.
Regards, Rick.
Rick Mac
Director of Audio Production
TCT Network – Directv 377 -
No dropped frames. When I captured, there were no drop frames shown on either one. Funny thing is, the capture from the DVX100B resulted in 9 clips. (1hr 2min). The capture from the GL2 resulted in 1 clip, also no dropped frames. Neither camera had been shut off. Also, after the wedding ceremony we took a couple of video shots of the wedding party, and when I captured the footage from the camera and loaded it onto the timeline, those several shots that would have been at the end of the tape, showed up at the beginning of the video in Vegas.
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the one that showed up at the beginning might simply be because when the clips were brought into Vegas they jumped on the timeline in no particular order. This has happened to me when I get too quick on the mouse (I double click from the folder on the HDD).
The difference in the clips is due to the camera clock-1 is set and 1 isn’t.
I did a job for a friend not long ago and he used his 170. When I captured his tapes I got no scene detecton at allwhich was a real PITA. Turns out he has never set the clock on the camera.
I don’t think either of these thing is really anything to worry about.
Don
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