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  • Posted by Clyde Villegas on January 28, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    I have a smoke footage with alpha channel made in AE. In the upper parts where the smoke is “thinning,” I notice some banding. Is that a result of the project being in 8bpc mode? Should I increase to 16 or 32 bpc? The rendered file will be an intermediate file which is going to be edited in Premiere with a delivery format of MPEG2 and is going to be burned in a DVD. If I increase the AE project from 8 bpc to 16 or 32, will the final delivery format in DVD after rendering in Premiere bring back the banding in the smoke? Thanks.

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    Chris Wright replied 17 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Chris Wright

    January 29, 2009 at 1:06 am

    Only works if you render out AE 16bpc in a video codec that supports 16bpc, rendering premiere in 32bpc mode project settings and output(there’s only 8 and 32 weird huh), output of premiere in 16bpc video codec. The banding won’t appear from the master to a mpeg2 9mbps encoding. At least, in theory…

    The depth for colors for all of these should say trillions+ of colors.
    I’d go Tiff(lzw off) to be short. It’s perfectly lossless and quite small.

  • Steve Roberts

    January 29, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    I think the MPEG2 compression will reintroduce the banding. I’d consider adding a bit of noise and doing some test renders.

    Search the COW for “banding” and noise”.

  • Clyde Villegas

    February 5, 2009 at 3:34 am

    Thanks guys. But yes, Steve. My biggest concern is that the banding will be reintroduced after MPEG2 conversion.

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  • Chris Wright

    February 5, 2009 at 4:04 am

    If you output to a 8bpc file and add noise to try to hide banding, then yes, a mpeg2 encode will bring it back out again. Computers see even more noise than our eyes do. hence green screening, etc.

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