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Big WARNING running 64 bit Windows & Vegas
Posted by Jerry Waters on July 16, 2007 at 5:46 pmI’ve run 64 bit Windows with Vegas for several months, no problem.Thenh Then the computer crashes, reinstall and Vegas comes up “MS Runtime could not be initialized,” and support says, “Sorry, we don’t support 64 bit.” Anyone have a suggestion? It would be greatly appreciated.
JerryW
John Rofrano replied 16 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies -
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Jerry Waters
July 17, 2007 at 8:01 amYes, I tried that but the net Vegas is looking for apparently cannot be installed on 64 bit Windows now.
JerryW
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Laszlo Kovacs
July 18, 2007 at 3:49 amAs I recall, vegas wants .NET 1.1.
.NET 2.0 is not a just a replace for .Net1, they are
different products.By(t)e
K.L.
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Russ Hurley
July 22, 2009 at 4:15 pmi am speaking to some tech moron at the moment at SCS. They seem unable to comprehend that a p4 cpu is not 64 bit.
I know amd have partnered with scs on a Vegas machine – maybe that is the machine to go for. There is little to suggest any benefits of running SVP in 64bit at present because they seems not the support for it.
anyone else out there with success / improvements on this???
Which CPU is the one to go???
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John Rofrano
July 22, 2009 at 6:08 pm> Which CPU is the one to go???
Intel Core i7 920.
~jr
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Russ Hurley
July 22, 2009 at 9:03 pmWell thank the Lord, John. You are a HERO.
Just look at my attempts below to obtain the recommended CPU from SCS. I realise the British attitude may be a bit weird (yes – i am British, but this really takes the *iss):
(Read in reverse)
can you PLEASE recommend a CPU????
What is your test machine?I am not asking you to recommend a manufacturer – just a cpu.
if i on get a satisfactory reply this time, its phone time.
Response (Kevin K.) 07/22/2009 03:53 PM
Hi Russ,Thank you for contacting Sony Creative Software. Your processor must be 64-bit and must run faster than 1.0 Ghz. If you have a completely different question, please create a new incident.
Sincerely,
Kevin K.
Customer Service
Sony Creative Software Inc
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Customer (Russ Hurley) 07/22/2009 03:37 PM
Kevin,I really don’t care what speed im’ running at.
You must be aware that a standard Pentium 4 is not capable of running 64 bit code. surely????
Can you refer me to your boss please/ This is beyond a joke???
Response (Kevin K.) 07/22/2009 12:25 PM
Hi Russ,Thank you for contacting Sony Creative Software.
My name is Kevin K and I work in Technical Support. The following response has been reviewed by a member of our Vegas Pro 9 Development team and has been certified as accurate.
You state you are interested in installing Vegas Pro 9.0 64-bit.
In order to do this, you will need:
The PC architecture has to be 64-bit (this would include the processor)
Windows Vista 64-bit operating system.
You must be running Vegas Pro (64-bit) on the computer.Our minimum system requirements do indeed state that your 64-bit system will need at least a processor capable of 1Ghz.
These minimum system requirements have been produced by our Development team, the people responsible for the coding of the software. Those requirements are listed below:
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/sysreq
In computing, most central processing units are labeled in terms of their clock speed expressed in gigahertz. This number refers to the frequency of the CPU’s master clock signal and not whether or not the processor is capable of 64-bit processing.
From the information above it would be logical to infer that this requirement would mean that you will need a 64-bit processor capable of at least 1Ghz.
As I am sure you are already aware, most 64-bit processors can easily surpass this “bench mark” requirement.
Again, the speed of the processor is not directly related to whether or not the processor is 64-bit. The Ghz rating is directly related to the speed of the processor and not it’s architecture.
As Cassie has already stated in correspondence with you, Sony Creative Software has a company policy of not recommending specific hardware. We have business relationships with many different manufacturers and cannot show favoritism.
In order to get an answer for your question: “what cpu is needed to run SVP 64 at its best?” , I would recommend that you contact a computer reseller that deals specifically with Vegas Pro, or ask the question in our forums. I have provided a link below for your convenience:
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/default.asp
Thank you for your interest in Vegas Pro 9. If you have a completely different question, please create a new incident.
Sincerely,
Kevin K.
Customer Service and Technical Support
Sony Creative Software Inc
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.comCustomer (Russ Hurley) 07/22/2009 11:00 AM
Hi Cassie. I am happy for you ro refer this to somebody that knows what they are talking about.However, what i don’t appreciate is when you answer my questions incorrectly.
In the previous mail, i said the following:
n your spec section, you say the following:
1 GHz processor (multicore or multiprocessor CPU recommended for HD)
this is not true. for 64 bit, you require a 64 porcessor. Please get back to me with the correct information.
Thanks.For YOUR information, a Pentium processor, for example, is a 32 bit cpu. Even if it is 4ghz, it is impossible for a pentium 4 processor to execute 64 bit code.
I ask again – what cpu is needed to run SVP 64 at its best??? The programmers will know – they will have used a test machine with a cpu.
Thanks.
Response (Cassie K.) 07/22/2009 09:14 AM
Hi Russ,GHz referes to the speed of the processor. Our system requirements for Vegas Pro 9 recommend a processor that is capable of 1 GHz (multicore or multiprocessor CPU recommended for HD). A processor’s speed is not related to whether or not it is a 64-bit processor.
Sincerely,
Cassie K.
Customer Service
Sony Creative Software Inc
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.comThank you for allowing us to serve you! Click the following link to save 20% on your next Sony Creative Software webstore purchase: https://www.sonymediasoftware.com/promo.asp?keycode=65032-1032
Customer (Russ Hurley) 07/21/2009 05:25 PM
hi – thanks.sorry, but your information is incorrect.
in your spec section, you say the following:
1 GHz processor (multicore or multiprocessor CPU recommended for HD)
this is not true. for 64 bit, you require a 64 porcessor. Please get back to me with the correct information.
ThanksResponse (Cassie K.) 07/21/2009 02:21 PM
Hi Russ,The same information applies to Vegas Pro 9; the articles written on this topic just refer to Vegas 8.1 since they were created before the advent of Vegas Pro 9.
Sincerely,
Cassie K.
Customer Service
Sony Creative Software Inc
https://www.sonycreativesoftware.comThank you for allowing us to serve you! Click the following link to save 20% on your next Sony Creative Software webstore purchase: https://www.sonymediasoftware.com/promo.asp?keycode=65032-1032
Customer (Russ Hurley) 07/21/2009 02:02 PM
great but what about vegas pro 9?are you telling me that pro 8.1 is better?
Hi Russ,
Thank you for contacting Sony Creative Software.
Vegas Pro (64-bit) can access up 8TB of memory. In comparison, other 32-bit programs can typically access 2GB of memory.
Advantages seen by editing on Vegas Pro 8.1 include:
Longer dynamic RAM previews
Ability to open more files
More filters and effects in use at the same time
More cached frames provides longer ram previews and better editing performanceVegas Pro (64-bit) will be limited to 16 cores (artificially limited based on internal testable machines). In comparison, Vegas Pro 8.0 will limit rendering threads to 4 cores because of memory constraints.
Here are some tips for optimizing performance with 64-bit Vegas Pro:
Four key factors must exist for optimal Vegas Pro (64-bit) performance:
The PC architecture has to be 64-bit.
You must be running a Windows Vista 64-bit operating system.
You must be running Vegas Pro (64-bit) on the computer.
Supporting partner offerings, like hardware and plug-ins, must also be 64-bit capable.Sony Creative Software has a company policy of not recommending specific hardware. We have business relationships with many different manufacturers and cannot show favoritism. For advice on hardware, we suggest you contact a Sony Creative Software dealer, many of whom also deal in pro audio/video hardware. If you need a referral to a dealer in your area, you can find a full list of domestic dealers and distributors here: https://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/partners/resellers.asp
Sony Vegas 9 Pro 🙂
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John Rofrano
July 23, 2009 at 2:10 am> Just look at my attempts below to obtain the recommended CPU from SCS.
Well… they said that they cannot recommend hardware and you insisted that they recommend a CPU which is “hardware”.
You said:
I am not asking you to recommend a manufacturer – just a cpu.
That request is impossible to answer. CPU’s are made by either Intel or AMD which are “manufacturers” so by definition, you can’t recommend a CPU without recommending a manufacturer and Sony has a policy of not recommending any one manufacturer’s hardware. 😉
I agree that it would be nice if Sony was more precise on their web site about minimum and recommended hardware specs. The “1 GHz processor (multicore or multiprocessor CPU recommended for HD)” is very deceiving and vague which is what I believe you are upset about.
~jr
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