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  • NFP DBA and what that means?

    Posted by Jo Guthrie on May 28, 2008 at 1:13 am

    I belong to a group that has been nurtured under a non-profit company and is looking to go Not For Profit on their own. We will probably choose a generic name for the NFP name and continue doing business under our recognized name because we may wish to change it in the future as it is ‘location’ specific. I’m sure this is a baby-step un understanding type question but I’ve searched the web and the answer isn’t immediately clear to me.

    My question is: If we register a DBA, what’s to stop someone else from using that name to open their own corporation? So, if we decide to use DBA Company XYZ, what’s stopping someone in the same state from Incorporating the name and making it Company XYZ Inc.?

    The impression I am getting is that the DBA is what protects us in our state (Massachusetts) from overlapping with another business. But I want to be sure I’m not overlooking something.

    Jo Guthrie replied 17 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Steve Wargo

    May 28, 2008 at 3:35 am

    Trademark your name. We trademarked the name of our motion picture company and the name of our next feature film, which everyone says is impossible.

    Steve Wargo
    Tempe, Arizona
    It’s a dry heat!

    Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
    5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
    Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
    2-Sony EX-1 HD .

  • Ryan Mast

    May 28, 2008 at 5:08 am

    Hi Steve,

    What kind of cost and effort is required to trademark a name? Would I need a lawyer, or can I do the paperwork on my own?

  • David Roth weiss

    May 28, 2008 at 5:38 am

    https://www.uspto.gov/web/trademarks/workflow/start.htm

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

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  • Steve Wargo

    May 28, 2008 at 7:10 am

    It costs around $350 on your own and around $750 with the right lawyer.
    One of our TMs was denied and my lawyer threw in the towel. I developed a strategy to over rule their decision and we won.

    Read the info that David linked you to, very carefully, and then go for it. It’s kind of cool to have Trademarks and copyrights.

    My wife just did hers without a lawyer. We are waiting on the final OK right now.

    Mine are “Chem Trails” and “Controversial Pictures”.

    Steve Wargo
    Tempe, Arizona
    It’s a dry heat!

    Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
    5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
    Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
    2-Sony EX-1 HD .

  • Steve Wargo

    May 28, 2008 at 7:28 am

    https://www.mydlstore.com/product.php?productid=40090&cat=23&page=

    Steve Wargo
    Tempe, Arizona
    It’s a dry heat!

    Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
    5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
    Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
    2-Sony EX-1 HD .

  • Ryan Mast

    May 28, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Sweet, thanks a lot! It’s something I should probably start planning and saving up for…

  • Bruce Bennett

    May 28, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    Hi Jo,

    I find it hard to believe that a business can qualify as a NFP without being incorporated (LLC, inc., ltd, etc.). You may have to without a choice. I would find out first before spending money for a TM.

    Bruce

    Bruce Bennett
    Bennett Marketing & Media Production, LLC

  • Timothy J. allen

    May 29, 2008 at 3:34 am

    Steve,
    My experience is that you can’t simply trademark names – it’s the “tangible expression” of the words that can be trademarked. Did you have a particular font style or color scheme that made your titles “trademarketable”?

  • Steve Wargo

    May 29, 2008 at 5:47 am

    Hmm I just spoke to a NP CPA today and she said that the steps are:

    Apply for a “Corporation” status with the state corporation commission.

    Wait 3 weeks and then apply for a NP status.

    Wait 120 days while they decide. (If it was MVD, it would be 300 days)

    Possibly wait another 120 days till they decide. (MVD 1000 days)

    After they decide YES (possibly), begin operating as a NP

    You’re a probationary NP for 5 years and then they look at your rep and your books and decide if you actually qualify and if you do, then there you go.

    She also said:

    It costs just under $5000 for the lawyer and CPA to get you started and then about $1200 a year for CPA stuff. She said that if it costs more, keep shopping.

    Your time frame may differ, of course.

    Steve Wargo
    Tempe, Arizona
    It’s a dry heat!

    Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
    5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
    Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
    2-Sony EX-1 HD .

  • Steve Wargo

    May 29, 2008 at 5:49 am

    1. Company names are trademarkable.

    2. The DVDs that will hold the feature film are tangible and therefor trademarkable.

    Steve Wargo
    Tempe, Arizona
    It’s a dry heat!

    Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
    5 Final Cut (not quite PRO) systems
    Sony HVR-M25 HDV deck
    2-Sony EX-1 HD .

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