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  • Render Que Compression

    Posted by Stephen Lubin on February 23, 2008 at 7:03 am

    Hi,

    I’ve made a slideshow on AE and am trying to export it into the best possible quality. However, when i added it to the render que it made a file that was around 5 GB. That was way too much space for a 3 min. 15 sec. slideshow.

    I noticed the option in the render que for a compressor. They list so many choices and I don’t really understand any of them.

    Any suggestions as to how I may compress the file size one way or another?

    Stephen Lubin replied 18 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    February 23, 2008 at 7:29 am

    Welcome to video, it eats up a lot of space. Standard Def can eat up a meager 5 minutes per gigabyte if you’re rendering out to the DV codec. Uncompressed 8 bit SD will eat up a gig per minute or so. High Def Video starts at about a minute per gig with DVCProHD 720p and uncompressed 1080p, well, fuggedaboutit.

    What are you trynig to output your video as? A web movie, or uncompressed HD or somewhere inbetween maybe?

    If it’s standard DV video you’d like, use the DV presets. But you’ll need to start with a composition that is DV as well for the best results.

  • Stephen Lubin

    February 23, 2008 at 7:34 am

    The comp is 720 x 480. It’s not web based, just a little something I want to put on dvd.

    I tried the DV compressor, but the quality wasn’t as good as uncompressed.

    Any other thoughts?

  • Bret Williams

    February 23, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    I’m actually surprised you can tell the difference on your computer that easily. Yes, uncompressed is better, and will eat up the drive space you mentioned earlier. But for a simple slide show, with (assuming) high res photos as the source footage, DV should work for you.

    A few thoughts…
    Did you view the resulting DV file on a TV or on a computer? With DV, the resolution is shown as less on a computer and can look pretty horrendous. It’s a throwback to slow computer days so that editing systems could play the files at lesser quality but full frame rate. In quicktme, you can look at the video track details and check the little box marked high quality. Now it will look correct on your computer.

    But… who cares about the 5 gig file size anyway if you’re goinig to DVD? You’re going to have to compress that file once again to Mpeg2 to put it on a DVD. Mpeg2 is actually going to benefit from sending it the best file you can since it’s much more highly compressed than DV.

    Once you’re created the DVD mpeg2 file, you can toss the 5 gig AE rendered file if it’s taking too much space. Besides, you can always rerender it from AE anyway if need be.

    What are you using to encode your DVD?

  • Stephen Lubin

    February 23, 2008 at 6:33 pm

    You’re idea of making the uncompressed file and then sending it to dvd only to have it compressed is a great idea. I’m using Adobe Encore DVD. I’m going to give it a try and let you know how it works.

    As for the other questions, I watched it on my comp, not a TV. And what’s really strange is that I exported it into quicktime format, made sure the quality control was on best, and the video came out horrible! It was really really bad quality, and that has never happened before.

  • Bret Williams

    February 23, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    Open the DV file in QT player. (might need QT Pro) Press cmd+j (ctrl+j PC?) to bring up the movie inspector. Click on video track. Then in the bottom rt corner click on high quality. That’s what I’m referring to. Not the choice of quality when rendering to DV. You actually can’t choose any quality options with DV. Even if it appears to let you. DV is DV is DV. Unless it’s DV50, or HDV. 🙂

  • Stephen Lubin

    February 23, 2008 at 8:32 pm

    Yea, I would need quicktime pro, haha, but thanks for all your help!

    I made an uncompressed file and it turned out looking great!

  • Simon Bonner

    February 24, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Hi Steve,

    Just an idea, but seeing as you’re using Encore why not create a slideshow from inside THAT programme from your original jpegs? Then you wouldn’t even need that huge video file. I think Encore supports slideshows of up to 99 images, though you can have more than one slideshow. And you can add a music track (and automatically space out the picture durations to last the length of the audio track), so it’s as good as making a movie!

    This is assuming you’ve not added effects or complicated camera moves to your slideshow in AE, of course…

    Simon Bonner

    youtube.com/simonsaysFX

  • Stephen Lubin

    February 24, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Wow, I didn’t even know that was possible in Encore. Thanks for letting me know! That’s definitely a possibility when little or not effects are needed.

    Although, the slideshow I made did have some “complicated” effects that couldn’t be done in Encore.

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