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  • To burn a blu-ray – best way?

    Posted by Andrew Harman on February 24, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Hi,
    I have a hi-def .mov file.
    Its look great on my mac and seems to be the right specs but just dont look as good on the 52 inch LCD TV.

    What may be happening and please, if you need more info, please ask as i am going batty!!

    Thanks All

    Andrew Harman replied 15 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Jeff Greenberg

    February 25, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    How are you judging that it doesn’t look good on your TV? Did you already make a blu-ray disc? If so, how?

    First, you’re going to find that everyone has adopted the idea that you shouldn’t directly edit h.264 footage – that it’s best to transcode to ProRes.

    Second, one of the tricky things you learn about video, particularly inside of Final Cut, is that the method of plugging your Macintosh into a TV set is in a reliable way to monitor the quality of your footage. Final Cut uses for the number of compromises to be will play the footage correctly in real time–unless you use a hardware output card is connected to a broadcast monitor.

    Last, your original question asks about Blu-ray; did you actually make the disc? If so, did you do it through compressor or through the share command inside of Final Cut.

    Best,

    Jeff G

    Apple Master Trainer
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  • Andrew Harman

    February 28, 2011 at 1:41 am

    Hi,
    I like the idea of playing the movie from the laptop to the TV as a test to see how it will look.
    Will give it a shot.

    And yes, i actually burn the blu-ray disc. Both through Toast Pro and Compressor – both results poorer but not bad in all.

    Thanks All

  • Andrew Harman

    March 3, 2011 at 1:25 am

    I just tried the mov file from my Macbook Pro connected via VGA to the LCD TV and the movie look good.

    Does that mean, its then a setting when burning the blu-ray?

    Thanks All

  • Jeff Greenberg

    March 3, 2011 at 3:39 am

    Andrew,

    It’s hard to say – but that’s because I didn’t communicate myself as well as I should had;

    I was talking about the idea of connecting your mac to a ‘tv set’ (via DVI) vs. connecting it through a hardware card to a broadcast monitor.

    FCP uses multiple ‘cheats’ to display video footage when you connect your mac to a TV
    You can only truly trust the method of using a hardware card to a Broadcast monitor (not a TV).

    So, let’s try to troubleshoot this again:
    1) How are you judging it looks good or not? When you say it looks great on your mac…
    …..Are you talking about inside of FCP?
    …..Are you talking about inside of QuickTime?
    …..Are you talking about a BluRay disc? If so, how did you get it from FCP to BluRay?
    …..What were the BluRay settings in Toast? In Compressor?
    2) How are you viewing a bluray disc?
    …..Is this what you feel doesn’t look good?
    …..how is the blu-ray connected to the TV?

    It’s a complex issue and the terms “Just don’t look as good” isn’t as descriptive as we need to help.

    Best,

    Jeff G

    Apple Master Trainer
    Avid Cert. Instructor DS/MC
    Avid & Color Videos Vasst.com
    Compressor Essentials Lynda.com

  • Andrew Harman

    March 4, 2011 at 2:13 am

    Thanks for the reply.
    I am judging the look on how good it looks on my 27 inch imac when played through Quicktime.
    I got the file to blue ray two ways, one from Compressor direct ot blue ray and the other was from Toast Pro to blu-ray.
    The settings are:
    .

    I am viewing the blu-ray on the 52″ LCD TV via a sony blu-ray player connected via HDMI.

    Thanks All

  • Jeff Greenberg

    March 4, 2011 at 3:10 am

    Well, the MPEG-2 method isnt’ as good as an h.264 (for bluray.)

    What I meant is that you can only truly judge FCP via a broadcast chain (capture card to broadcast monitor.

    Best,

    Jeff G

    Apple Master Trainer
    Avid Cert. Instructor DS/MC
    Avid & Color Videos Vasst.com
    Compressor Essentials Lynda.com

  • Andrew Harman

    March 17, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    Toast only give me mpeg 2 and mpeg4-avc.
    So are you saying Toast will not do it?

    Thanks All

  • Jeff Greenberg

    March 18, 2011 at 12:15 am

    [Andrew Harman] “Toast only give me mpeg 2 and mpeg4-avc.
    So are you saying Toast will not do it?

    mpeg4-avc IS h.264

    Both of those are permitting streams for a blu-ray dvd; at the same data rates h.264 looks better.

    Best,

    Jeff G

    Apple Master Trainer | Avid Cert. Instructor DS/MC
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  • Walter Biscardi

    March 18, 2011 at 12:29 am

    [Jeff Greenberg] “Well, the MPEG-2 method isnt’ as good as an h.264 (for bluray.)”

    It isn’t? We’ve been making BluRays for four years now, all MPEG-2. Most of the BluRays I have purchased commercially have been MPEG-2. H264 really hasn’t taken as much of a hold of BluRay until recently and still isn’t all that widely used.

    We still use MPEG-2 for all our BluRays here as the quality is near identical to the HD originals. We’ve done something like 200+ BluRay discs now over the past two years alone.

    Just go with MPEG-2 for the video, AC-3 for the audio and use Adobe’s Encore if you only want to have a “Play Only” disc. Toast can do the same. We use Compressor to compress our files.

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  • Andrew Harman

    March 18, 2011 at 12:32 am

    you dont happen to know bout Toast Pro then do you?
    I even did a test with a movie burnt with mpeg 4 avc but still not great (420i) it said on the display.

    Thanks All

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