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  • Export 16:9 issues!

    Posted by Joel Thiessen on February 21, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    I am taking 4:3 footage and changing it to 16:9 and editing it then exporting it.
    I have been trying to tweak my Sequence Settings to get the best aspect ratio but my videos have been crazy sizes. Some are squished some are stretched. Some say 720×480(853×480).

    I am reading a tonne of manuals right now, but some lamens terms could help me out a lot!

    What sequence settings/output would do this best for me? I want a SD 16:9 H.264 video.

    Joel

    Tom Wolsky replied 13 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 12 Replies
  • 12 Replies
  • Tom Wolsky

    February 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Make an anamorphic DV sequence. Edit your material into it. The 4:3 material will be pillarboxed. If you want it to fill the screen you’ll have to scale it up. This will soften the image.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Joel Thiessen

    February 21, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    So using NTSC DV 3:2, CCIR 601 and Anamorphic sequence setting.
    By pillarboxed do you mean having black vertical bars on the left and right?
    Will this export as 720×480?

    Thanks for the reply!!

  • Tom Wolsky

    February 21, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Black on left and right, correct.

    This will export 720×480 anamorphic. If you want it for the web you export 853×480 or some other 16:9 setting.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Joel Thiessen

    February 22, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Okay…
    My sequence settings are as follows:
    720×480 NTSC DV (3:2)
    NTSC – CCIR 601
    Anamorphic Checked

    Top: Straight export from my time line using Export > Quicktime Movie
    Bottom Left: Export using Export> Quicktime Conversion with the size set to NTSC 720×480 4:3 (ignore my poor titling in the image.)
    Bottomr Right: Export using Export> Quicktime Conversion with the size set to NTSC 720×480 16:9

    Which one is right? I’ve been asked for a 720×480 w/ square pixels. Is 720×480 considered 16:9?

    I’m simply really confused, I’ve been doing this for a few years using my panasonic HPX-170 i’ve never had this much trouble before. Maybe because the source video I am getting is 640×480.

  • Joel Thiessen

    February 22, 2011 at 12:51 am

    Also, why is the video exported using Export>Quicktime Movie (left) not matching what is in my FCP viewer?

  • Tom Wolsky

    February 22, 2011 at 2:41 am

    DV NTSC is 720×480 always. Period. Doesn’t matter if it’s 4:3 or 16:9. It’s always 720×480. Anamorphic means the 16:9 image is squeezed into the 720×480 frame. If you look at the raw 720×480 frame it looks squeezed, because it is. It is designed to be played back stretched out to 16:9. All this is explained in far greater detail on wiki or other sources of basic information about video formats.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Tom Wolsky

    February 22, 2011 at 2:44 am

    This is a correction. The image on the left is the QT Movie export. This is the raw image in 720×480. Open it in the QT7 player. Go to movie properties Cmd-J and set the aperture to clean I think it is. This will show you the video in 16:9. But you don’t have to do that. You take the exported QT Movie into Compressor and make your H.264 square pixel widescreen image for the web there. Either that or you export to QuickTime Conversion and set the frame size there.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 4 Editing Workshop”

  • Elias Gwinn

    November 19, 2012 at 6:42 am

    Tom,

    I’ve followed your instructions, and set up a NTSC DV (3:2) 720×480 Anamorphic sequence for editing 640×480 footage (allowing for black bars on the sides). It seems to have properly set the canvas to fit the footage w/o re-sizing (again, w/ the black bars).

    But the problem I’m having is this: it’s constantly making me render ‘raw’ clips (w/ no effects/scaling/stretching), whereas I never had to render these raw clips when the sequence was set (automatically) to the footage’s native resolution (i.e., 4:3 w/ no black spaces on the side).

    The footage I’m using has been converted to Apple ProRes422.

    The delivered format will be 16:9 H.264 (for the web), w/o the 4:3 footage stretched (keeping the black bars on the sides).

    I’ve also tried this sequence setting: ‘Custom’ 853×480
    This setting also seemed to be right (black bars, no stretching or scaling), except that I still had to render raw clips.

    Any ideas??

    Thanks!

  • Elias Gwinn

    November 19, 2012 at 7:01 am

    Error in my previous post: my ‘raw’ footage is 720×480, not 630×480

  • Tom Wolsky

    November 19, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    You will always have to render this because your clips don’t match your sequence. No way around that. Sonething has to create the black bars. Switch your sequence to Unlimited RT in the RT popup.

    All the best,

    Tom

    “Final Cut Pro X for iMovie and Final Cut Express Users” from Focal Press
    “Complete Training for FCPX” from Class on Demand
    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP7,” “Basic Training for FCS” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”

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