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drop frame/non-drop frame recapture problems
Hi there,
I recently upgraded to FCP 6 (couldn’t buy 7 because incompatible with my old PowerMacG5), upgraded to Leopard (again, couldn’t do Snow Leopard bec. of old computer), and bought another external hard drive to free up disk space.
Ever since then, I’ve been having problems, as evidenced by my posts last week.
I’m now getting the drop frame/non drop frame message when I try to re-capture some of my tapes for my online edit. I have no idea if the tapes were recorded drop frame or non-drop, as they are undercover investigation footage from a 3rd party.
I played around, creating a non-drop-frame device control setting and tried to recapture in that setting but still got the message.
I trashed my prefs, then set things to normal (nothing special), tried recapturing one master file from the investigation–worked fine, then tried with another and got the error message again.
Another wonky thing: now sometimes when I’m working in my project, the sound comes out of my camcorder, not my computer speakers.
Could there be an incompatibility with the kind of camcorder I’m using as my tape deck? It’s a Sony DCR-HC28. I checked Apple’s recommended 3rd party devices list for FC Studio 6, and this one isn’t on there. It wasn’t giving me any trouble before, so I don’t understand the sudden change, but you never know.
Any counsel would be very much appreciated.
Best,
Marisa -
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Sometimes having more than one device on the Firewire port like the camera and an external hard drive can cause problems. Even though your Mac has more than one FW port, they are all connected to one controller. While it doesn’t always happen that multiple devices interact poorly, it does happen. A couple of years ago I connected a new drive to a 2nd FW port and everything ground to a halt. Just a thought.
John
MacPro 8-core 2.8GHz 8 GB RAM OS 10.5.8 QT7.6.4 Kona 3 Dual Cinema 23 ATI Radeon HD 3870, 24″ TV-Logic Monitor, ATTO ExpressSAS R380 RAID Adapter, PDE enclosure with 8-drive 6TB RAID 5
FCS 3 (FCP 7.0.2, Motion 4.0.2, Comp 3.5.2, DVDSP 4.2.2, Color 1.5.2)Pro Tools HD w SYNC IO & 192 Digital I/O, Yamaha DM1000, Millennia Media HV-3C, Neumann U87, Schoeps Mk41 mics, Genelec Monitors, PrimaLT ISDN
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Hi John,
Thanks so much for the good counsel. I had also daisy-chained my two G-RAIDS, so now I’ll just work with one at a time. I had been working with just one at a time with my camcorder, and it worked fine.
For some reason, the sound is still coming out of my camcorder, though. Just when I use Final Cut.
Have any other ideas about what I could do to fix that?
Thanks again!
Marisa -
I don’t capture the way you do and don’t monitor with the computer’s speakers so I’m not sure what to tell you about sound from the camera vs the Mac. Look through the capture parameters – maybe in the Easy Setups – to see if there are monitoring choices. Look in the Mac’s System Pref’s Audio tab and see if you have a choice of sound output there.
John
MacPro 8-core 2.8GHz 8 GB RAM OS 10.5.8 QT7.6.4 Kona 3 Dual Cinema 23 ATI Radeon HD 3870, 24″ TV-Logic Monitor, ATTO ExpressSAS R380 RAID Adapter, PDE enclosure with 8-drive 6TB RAID 5
FCS 3 (FCP 7.0.2, Motion 4.0.2, Comp 3.5.2, DVDSP 4.2.2, Color 1.5.2)Pro Tools HD w SYNC IO & 192 Digital I/O, Yamaha DM1000, Millennia Media HV-3C, Neumann U87, Schoeps Mk41 mics, Genelec Monitors, PrimaLT ISDN
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OoooOOOOooooh. You were right–it was in my FCP audio setup. Now I feel silly because I thought it was way more complicated. THANK YOU, John!!!!
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I’m glad it worked out.
John
MacPro 8-core 2.8GHz 8 GB RAM OS 10.5.8 QT7.6.4 Kona 3 Dual Cinema 23 ATI Radeon HD 3870, 24″ TV-Logic Monitor, ATTO ExpressSAS R380 RAID Adapter, PDE enclosure with 8-drive 6TB RAID 5
FCS 3 (FCP 7.0.2, Motion 4.0.2, Comp 3.5.2, DVDSP 4.2.2, Color 1.5.2)Pro Tools HD w SYNC IO & 192 Digital I/O, Yamaha DM1000, Millennia Media HV-3C, Neumann U87, Schoeps Mk41 mics, Genelec Monitors, PrimaLT ISDN
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Hey John,
Now that I don’t have my audio fixed (yay!) and general weirdness due to my my camcorder having been plugged into the same port as my hard drive (thanks for the help with that) AND I trashed prefs, I’m wondering why I’m still getting the non-drop-frame error messages when I try to recapture some of my footage hi-res.
The thing is, back when I was working on FCP 5, I never got that message. I was able to recapture these exact same clips to hi-res just fine. Also, I can tell in my browser which ones are drop frame and non-drop frame based on whether : or ;, but weirdly now even clips with ; are giving me the non-drop-frame message.
Is there something I’m missing in FCP 6 that allows one to switch? I’ve been reading the manual, and I understand the difference between the two, but I don’t see a clear answer here.
Again, any ideas would be so great!
Thanks again,
Marisa -
Happy update:
There is a special device preset tailored specially to non-drop-frame media. All I had to do was select that (Firewire NTSC NDF) and boom — it works! I found this solution in another forum.
Phew! 🙂
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