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16:9 ratio
Hi all,
I’m editing some footage at the moment in 16:9 ratio and was just having a look at my settings and saw that anamorphic isn’t ticket. I ticked it (just to see what happened really!) and obviously the picture in my viewer squashed in horizontally.
When wanting to use anamorphic, is it down to how you shoot the footage? Or is it decided when you upload the footage?
Sorry for this, i’m kinda guessing this is a really basic question!
Russ
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It’s shot anamorphically, so that’s when it’s made. You can turn on the anamorphic checkbox after you’ve captured though, so it doesn’t really matter which way you capture it. but if it’s anamorphic it will be 16:9 and not distorted when that checkbox is on.
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[Russ Carlin] “I’m editing some footage at the moment in 16:9 ratio and was just having a look at my settings and saw that anamorphic isn’t ticket. I ticked”
HD is 16×9 and NOT anamorphic, it’s the natural aspect ratio. Anamorphic is most often used trying to squeeze a 16×9 picture out of the 3×4 area of a Standard Def image.
Herb Sevush
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[Herb Sevush] “HD is 16×9 and NOT anamorphic”
Not true. It’s all based on the camera sensor. The P2 camera I have, HPX-500 has a native sensor of 960×720. When dropped into FCP, it detects the footage and stretches it to 1280×720.
Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
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I used a JVC 750e.
Is letterbox the same as anamorphic?
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[Steve Eisen] “The P2 camera I have, HPX-500 has a native sensor of 960×720. When dropped into FCP, it detects the footage and stretches it to 1280×720.”
DVCPRO HD uses all sorts of tricks to generate a 16×9 image but it’s not considered an anamorphic format. If you check your sequence settings you’ll see that anamorphic is un-checked.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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But it isn’t anamorphic in the eyes of FCP. It’s still just HD. One of the many flavors of HD, but not anamorphic. Anamorphic only applies to SD material in FCP.
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Nope. Letterbox is, well, lets just say a very poor choice. There is no reason to ever shoot letterbox. Letterbox means you simply decided to record 2 bars of black instead of actual picture. So, instead of squeezing 854×480 into a 720×480 space, you squeezed it into 720×360 space. Now, to play back on a 1920×1080 screen it has to enlarge the image 300% to fill the screen instead of 225% (plus some horizontal stretching).
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[Russ Carlin] “Is letterbox the same as anamorphic?”
Letterbox is a description of what happens when you put a complete 16 x 9 formatted picture into a 3 x 4 formatted frame (or anytime you put a mismatched format into another without cropping) – the result is a frame with black on top and bottom to fill out the image. Your other 2 options when dealing with mismatched formats is to center crop, that is just use the center 3×4 area of the original 16×9 image and get rid of the rest, or to squeeze it anamorphically. This last choice means you squeeze the image while encoding and then unsqueeze it during playback. This uses the whole 720×480 area of the Standard Def frame to playback the 16×9 image. It’s much higher quality than letterboxing but requires both encoder and playback to be able and aware that you are going anamorphic.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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You could argue that 1440×1080 was a kind of anamorphosis.
jPo
You mean “Old Ben”? Ben Kenobi?
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[Joseph Owens] “You could argue that 1440×1080 was a kind of anamorphosis.”
And you would be right. You can also argue that since DVCPRO Hd is 960×720 and stretches out to 1280×720 it’s anamorphic as well. These are interesting technical arguments, but the thread was about helping someone figure out what to do and in the world of FCP both of these formats are not anamorphic because they don’t use the
anamorphic checkbox in the sequence settings. So when in FCP all HD formats are non anamorphic. And that’s not an argument but a simple workable fact.Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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