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  • Key out black – detonationfilms

    Posted by Arnljot Bringedal on November 11, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Hey guys!

    Need to composite footage of smoke & fire on daylight footage.

    The footage with the FX are on a black background – and are not prekeyed.

    Im not pleased with the results io am getting so far….

    I have tried most of the keying effects I know of…..

    Has anyone got experience with footage from detfilms?

    Thanks for all inputs!

    BEcker

    Alex Serban replied 13 years, 3 months ago 9 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Julian Sixx

    November 11, 2007 at 1:16 pm

    Hi

    peace of cake with Knoll Unmult from Red Giant

  • Don Logan

    November 11, 2007 at 5:10 pm

    Guys, it’s Sunday.

    Sunday is a day of rest. So take it easy and just change your Blending mode to Add, no need to pull key.

    Heads up for those not in the know. Detonation Films rocks Large. MMmmm-kayyyyyy

  • Rhett Robinson

    November 11, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    Yep – “add” works well, and you might want to play with the other blending modes. “Screen” drops out the black, but with many of these it may look a too transparent. But definitely get with it on blending modes… another way is to duplicate the layer and use a track matte – all of these are useful when needed.

    As stated earlier, unmult is a free plug, and is sometime pretty darn useful… it’s used in the “Creating Motion Graphics” series by the Meyers.

  • Lifetypo

    November 11, 2007 at 11:57 pm

    luma key is your friend for white and black keying

    and of course the painfully obvious blend modes ..

  • Aaron Zander

    November 12, 2007 at 12:35 am

    channels-set matte

    also if something is too transperant toss curves on it, go to the individual channels and select alpha, pull the curve to the top lieft

  • Roland R. kahlenberg

    November 12, 2007 at 8:11 am

    You’ll want to stay away from Keying. The modes and chanelling stuff are good. For fine-tuning the edges, Alpha Levels does a good job, if the route you chose gave you an Alpha Channel.

    HTH
    Roland Kahlenberg
    https://www.broadcastGEMs.com – Adobe After Effects project files
    https://www.myspace.com/rorkrgbspace

  • Darby Edelen

    November 12, 2007 at 4:23 pm

    [A.Zander] “channels-set matte”

    If you go this route you will also want to use a Channels > Remove Color Matting effect set to black.

    Darby Edelen
    Designer
    Left Coast Digital
    Santa Cruz, CA

  • Aaron Zander

    November 12, 2007 at 11:46 pm

    whats the difference? I’ve always used set matte, is there a world i don’t know of?

  • Darby Edelen

    November 13, 2007 at 4:52 pm

    [A.Zander] “whats the difference? I’ve always used set matte, is there a world i don’t know of?”

    Set Matte will pull a matte from a channel of your choosing, generally with fire or such effects you would use the luminance of the footage. However, since the footage is premultiplied some of the pixels at the edges of the footage will have some luminance (they’re not entirely black) but will be mostly black, this results in that ugly dark fringing you can get around lighter objects.

    Remove Color Matting should be used WITH Set Matte, it removes the black from these semi-transparent dark pixels, making them semi-transparent bright pixels =)

    Darby Edelen
    Designer
    Left Coast Digital
    Santa Cruz, CA

  • Alex Serban

    February 5, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    “channels-set matte

    also if something is too transperant toss curves on it, go to the individual channels and select alpha, pull the curve to the top lieft”

    I have to say this is what worked best for me in my particular case. the luma matte, set matte, etc. all made the light pastel colors of my image transparent until i messed with the alpha curves. thank you

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