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Key out black – detonationfilms
Posted by Arnljot Bringedal on November 11, 2007 at 1:04 pmHey guys!
Need to composite footage of smoke & fire on daylight footage.
The footage with the FX are on a black background – and are not prekeyed.
Im not pleased with the results io am getting so far….
I have tried most of the keying effects I know of…..
Has anyone got experience with footage from detfilms?
Thanks for all inputs!
BEcker
Alex Serban replied 13 years, 3 months ago 9 Members · 10 Replies -
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Don Logan
November 11, 2007 at 5:10 pmGuys, it’s Sunday.
Sunday is a day of rest. So take it easy and just change your Blending mode to Add, no need to pull key.
Heads up for those not in the know. Detonation Films rocks Large. MMmmm-kayyyyyy
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Rhett Robinson
November 11, 2007 at 5:57 pmYep – “add” works well, and you might want to play with the other blending modes. “Screen” drops out the black, but with many of these it may look a too transparent. But definitely get with it on blending modes… another way is to duplicate the layer and use a track matte – all of these are useful when needed.
As stated earlier, unmult is a free plug, and is sometime pretty darn useful… it’s used in the “Creating Motion Graphics” series by the Meyers.
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Lifetypo
November 11, 2007 at 11:57 pmluma key is your friend for white and black keying
and of course the painfully obvious blend modes ..
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Aaron Zander
November 12, 2007 at 12:35 amchannels-set matte
also if something is too transperant toss curves on it, go to the individual channels and select alpha, pull the curve to the top lieft
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Roland R. kahlenberg
November 12, 2007 at 8:11 amYou’ll want to stay away from Keying. The modes and chanelling stuff are good. For fine-tuning the edges, Alpha Levels does a good job, if the route you chose gave you an Alpha Channel.
HTH
Roland Kahlenberg
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Darby Edelen
November 12, 2007 at 4:23 pm[A.Zander] “channels-set matte”
If you go this route you will also want to use a Channels > Remove Color Matting effect set to black.
Darby Edelen
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Aaron Zander
November 12, 2007 at 11:46 pmwhats the difference? I’ve always used set matte, is there a world i don’t know of?
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Darby Edelen
November 13, 2007 at 4:52 pm[A.Zander] “whats the difference? I’ve always used set matte, is there a world i don’t know of?”
Set Matte will pull a matte from a channel of your choosing, generally with fire or such effects you would use the luminance of the footage. However, since the footage is premultiplied some of the pixels at the edges of the footage will have some luminance (they’re not entirely black) but will be mostly black, this results in that ugly dark fringing you can get around lighter objects.
Remove Color Matting should be used WITH Set Matte, it removes the black from these semi-transparent dark pixels, making them semi-transparent bright pixels =)
Darby Edelen
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Left Coast Digital
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Alex Serban
February 5, 2013 at 10:57 pm“channels-set matte
also if something is too transperant toss curves on it, go to the individual channels and select alpha, pull the curve to the top lieft”
I have to say this is what worked best for me in my particular case. the luma matte, set matte, etc. all made the light pastel colors of my image transparent until i messed with the alpha curves. thank you
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