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  • Compress to AVC Intra

    Posted by Rich Kaelin on May 9, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Is there a codec pug in that will allow me to export AVC Intra .mov files?
    I have seen some movies compressed with this and they look great, and one of my cameras shoots in it and footage looks great. I am doing an hour program that needs to be uploaded to Russia, and I am trying to cut the file size to upload, but my nanoFlash is going to record in XDCAM.

    Rich Kaelin
    Kaelin Motion Production Services
    https://kaelinmotion.com
    New York

    Jeremy Garchow replied 14 years, 12 months ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    May 9, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    AVC Intra is an acquisition format, not a delivery format. There is nothing that I know of that will deliver an AVC Intra file. Generally you work with AVC Intra footage in a ProRes timeline. I don’t know of anyone who actually cuts / delivers in AVC I

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Shane Ross

    May 9, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Uh…no. If you shoot that format, FCP will wrap the original camera masters to AVCIntra QT files. Basically just taking the MXF files and putting them in a QT wrapper. But then to edit them in FCP you need to use a ProRes setting, as there are no AVCIntra settings. And FCP will no export AVCIntra.

    It isn’t a delivery codec. People without FCP and the AVCintra codec installed wouldn’t be able to see the files. ProRes is more the standard, and the quality will be comparable.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
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  • Rich Kaelin

    May 9, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    I was aware of and afraid f this…but I have seen movies in this codec. The issue is file size. I wanted to upload the smaller files, and let them ingest it however they see fit. The speed of there server will make it a 2 day upload in XDCAM form. Just hoping to process to something more manageable.

    Rich Kaelin
    Kaelin Motion Production Services
    https://kaelinmotion.com
    New York

  • Shane Ross

    May 9, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    I doubt you have. AVCHD maybe…but not AVCIntra.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Rich Kaelin

    May 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Shane, you are likely correct. I just checked a file and it only says AVC…my mind is stuck on “intra” because of my Panasonic camera. Still, this file looks great, even on a 60″ HDTV. Pretty amazing.

    Rich Kaelin
    Kaelin Motion Production Services
    https://kaelinmotion.com
    New York

  • Rafael Amador

    May 9, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    [Rich Kaelin] “Is there a codec pug in that will allow me to export AVC Intra .mov files?
    I have seen some movies compressed with this and they look great, and one of my cameras shoots in it and footage looks great. I am doing an hour program that needs to be uploaded to Russia, and I am trying to cut the file size to upload, but my nanoFlash is going to record in XDCAM.”

    As Walter and Shane points, no way to export to AVC-I, but you can do something similar your self.
    AVC-Intra is an H264, so export a QT/H264 with K-frame every frame and you are done.

    BUT think that to take advantage of “Intra-frames” you will need more or less duplicate the data-rate, so you won’t be able to reduce the data rate.

    Don’t get in trouble trying the “Intra” way. You will go much better taking advantage of the shining technology of the H264/GOPs.
    You just need to set the compressor properly:
    – Set Key-frames: AUTO.
    – Rise the Data-rate as much as you can.
    – Multipass.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Walter Biscardi

    May 9, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    H.264 files look amazing on HD displays too when compressed full sized and with good compression techniques. I put YouTube 720p outputs up onto my plasma screen all the time and they look good.

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 10, 2011 at 1:51 am

    AVC-Intra is available for delivery, and as a matter of fact is preferred to some clients.

    MXF4mac allows you to wrap AVC-Intra in mov/p2 compatible mxf, whatever:

    https://mxf4mac.com/index.php/quicktime-plug-ins.html

    It works great, but a word of warning, it’s slow as the codec is not optimized for multiprocessing. it does work, though.

    Also, Panasonic has a free Compressor plugin that will make a p2 compatible AVC-Intra MXF files:

    https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/desk/e/download.htm#encoder

    It is nice to be able to export a program/timeline to a p2 format, for example, as almost every NLE system can understand Panasonic’s implementation of MXF. Much better than trying to send a .mov and you get the call that there are having trouble reading the file. Compatibility is key, especially when sending to far away places over bandwidth.

    Jeremy

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