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  • Offline-Online Editing

    Posted by Olaf Steel on February 16, 2011 at 1:22 am

    Hi, I’m sorry if this question has been covered already…
    I’m shooting video using a Canon 7D, and a Panasonic AG-HMC150. I’m shooting 1920×1080 at 24p.
    I havnt begun shooting yet, so I need to know 1. the importance of shooting with timecode. Both cameras are borrowed from my college, along with their media cards, and I will be shooting on and off for a few weekends, and in between, the cameras could be used by other people using different settings. So 2. how do I keep timecodes when I resume shooting?
    Finally, could someone guide me through the steps to do an offline edit, and then make it online again once complete?
    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Jeremy Garchow replied 15 years, 3 months ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Michael Gissing

    February 16, 2011 at 2:48 am

    7D doesn’t have timecode but does record time of day info that Log & Transfer converts into timecode.

    Search for Shane Ross’s excellent tutorials. He has two that deal with correct workflow procedure to L&T and then then the offline/ online process for file based projects.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 16, 2011 at 4:32 am

    BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make disk images of your Canon media cards, otherwise theres a chance the offline/online from Canon cameras wont work with the log and transfer plugin.

    HMC150 disk images aren’t necessary, you can use normal file copy procedures (preferably shotput pro).

  • Michael Griggs

    February 16, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    “PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make disk images of your Canon media cards”

    That is what Canon says on their website “how to” for ingesting to FCP via their plug-in…..but what if you DON’T have the disk image version??

    I recently received footage shot on a 7D, but the files were copied off the card onto a hdd, instead of the recommended creation of a disk image. While I am still able to access all the movies (and subsequently used Compressor to convert to ProRes), FCP’s Log & Transfer refuses to recognize the file structure of the folder with the Canon footage.

    I get the wonderful error message: “”Canon 7D Footage” contains unsupported media or has an invalid directory structure. Please choose a folder whose directory structure matches supported media.”

    Am I missing something?? I’ve installed Canon’s E1 plugin, and I’m using FCP 7.

    I can still use the footage via Compressor conversion, but, as I understand it, the E1 plugin and FCP ingest via L&R uses the camera’s timestamp to convert to timecode. This would be REALLY helpful!

    To boil it down…..

    Am I screwed because the Canon footage is NOT in the recommended disk image format?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    February 16, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    [Michael Griggs] “but what if you DON’T have the disk image version??”

    I posted about this. I used tools from VideoToolShed to get me back up and running. Check this out and be sure to read the comments:

    https://blogs.creativecow.net/blog/4109/a-few-words-of-warning-for-the-eos-movie-plugine1-for-final-cut-pro-users

    And no, you aren’t missing anything, it’s a narsty bug.

    [Michael Griggs] “I can still use the footage via Compressor conversion, but, as I understand it, the E1 plugin and FCP ingest via L&R uses the camera’s timestamp to convert to timecode. This would be REALLY helpful!”

    Tools form VideoToolShed can get you the tc you need form the THM files, but there’s some caveats.

    [Michael Griggs] “Am I screwed because the Canon footage is NOT in the recommended disk image format?”

    Not all is lost.

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