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  • Audio Synching Issues

    Posted by Nicholas Bown on June 30, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Hi Cows,

    We have a very odd problem with a complex workflow hopefully someone can help with.

    The workflow is below and the trailer that is being cut contains element as listed in the workflow.

    1st Step

    Xilisoft DVD Ripper

    Video – Pal

    720 x 480 – 720 x 576

    Framerate up to 25 fps

    RIP DVD.

    This takes the DVD footage upscales it to 25 fps.

    2nd Step

    Create FC sequence @ 25 fps DV

    Lay file into sequence and export to DV res 25 fps of ripped content to .mov file

    This step makes the .mov file

    3rd Step

    Open Cinema Tools and choose File Batch Conform

    Locate .mov and open choose frame rate 24 fps hit conform.

    This downscales the 25 fps back down to 24 fps

    4th Step

    Open FCP Drag .mov into timeline in 24 fps project

    Export using native project export settings with no changes.

    So this part of the workflow makes the .mov in 24 fps

    Audio Stage

    1st Step

    Digitize machine get OMF’s from client source (CD or DVD)

    Open Automatic Duck from FCP Import menu

    Convert to DV Pal 48 khz 24 fps.

    Automatic Duck places Audio into FCP

    Manually line up video track in FCP

    The video and audio is manually aligned so it is in synch.

    The Quicktime files that the project is made of are all in synch. When previewed the audio appears in synch on dialogue but the sound effects line up perfectly. It is a bizarre problem.

    The OMF’s contain the elements and the Automatic Duck places them into FCP. The dialogue is a different track but why would the effects be in synch and parts of the dialogue are fine, it may be elements of the dialogue are ADR but they appear in synch fine in Quicktime, but not FCP output to a Plasma display.

    The Mac Pro is part of a Fabric with dual screens attached to the DVI card supplied by Apple. A Blackmagic card puts the output to the Plasma.

    Could it be anything to do with the Blackmagic card output? It is driving us all insane.

    Heeeeelp

    Nicholas Bown replied 16 years, 2 months ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    June 30, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    How do you know the source footage on the DVD wasn’t 25fps?

    Jerry

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  • Nicholas Bown

    July 1, 2010 at 9:30 am

    Hi Jerry,

    If it wasn’t then it was as it is scaled up to 25 fps. If you read through the steps I outlined you’ll see the work flow. It is then scaled down to 24 fps.

    Thanks for your help, any ideas?

    Nicholas

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