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  • Editing in FCP vertical orientation

    Posted by Von Thomas on June 9, 2010 at 10:05 am

    I have a need to shoot some ad shots in vertical orientation, and all is fine until I try to edit my vertical footage in FCP. If I try to render or export, I get Codec not found. You may be using a compression type without corresponding hardware card. Is there any way I can successfully edit vertically.

    Von

    Von Thomas
    RED DP / Workflow Guru

    Jeremy Garchow replied 15 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    June 9, 2010 at 10:18 am

    Hi Von,
    So you want end up with a vertical movie?

    – Open your clips in QT and > Clip Properties (Com-J)
    – Video Track> Visual Setting.: You will find two buttons to rotate the movie 90 degrees right or left.
    Rotate and save.
    In FC you can conform a sequence to the new aspect movie.

    I recommend you to duplicate your clips before changing the properties.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 9, 2010 at 11:49 am

    Lemme guess, editing on ProRes? It won’t allow anything but standard frame sizes. My suggestion would be to edit horizontal, but flip your monitor.

    Or

    simply edit in a horizontally orientated timeline, and rotate the footage 90 degrees ( basically causing a big pillarbox). Then at the end, rotate it back. I would create a mask to lay on top of the footage to represent the horizontal aspect ratio rotated vertically. This way you can reposition your shots and you will know what they look like.

    Basically, keep your footage the way it was shot, don’t prerotate. You’ll have a harder time.

  • Rafael Amador

    June 9, 2010 at 12:16 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Lemme guess, editing on ProRes? It won’t allow anything but standard frame sizes”
    I’ve tried 1080 x 1920 in a Prores sequence.
    Works.
    Of course Red line, but once renderde plays OK in my laptop.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Richard Martz

    June 9, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    Need more info. Was the footage shot with the camera on its side (rotated 90 degrees)? I’ve done this before with a resolution of 480 x 3559. To do this we used a Motion JPEG sequence. But you can also specify 1080 x 1920 just as easily. The motion JPEG sequence should allow you to specify whatever resolution you need. If you shot it with camera in a 90 degree rotation originally, you will be able to rotate that footage and preserve most of your resolution. If you shot it in a traditional orientation then you will have to do a center extraction and you will have to blow up the footage to 1920 vertically. This will result in a loss of about half the resolution. Good luck.

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 9, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    One little test might work, but trust me when I say, ProRes can get weird at ‘non-standard’ frame sizes.

  • Walter Soyka

    June 9, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    [Von Thomas] “I have a need to shoot some ad shots in vertical orientation, and all is fine until I try to edit my vertical footage in FCP.”

    What’s your deliverable need to be? If this will ultimately be played on a rotated monitor, you will probably be expected to deliver standard video.

    I’d pre-rotate and export pillarboxed selects into a standard raster, use those for editing, then re-connect to the original media for effects, color grading, and final delivery.

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  • Rafael Amador

    June 9, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “One little test might work, but trust me when I say, ProRes can get weird at ‘non-standard’ frame sizes.”
    Well, when you edit 1080 x 1920 you can expect anything.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Von Thomas

    June 9, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    My end delivery is for vertical monitors, and outdoor display 3:4, and yes, I was working in ProRes.

    Thanks,

    Von

    Von Thomas
    RED DP / Workflow Guru

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 9, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    [Von Thomas] “My end delivery is for vertical monitors, and outdoor display 3:4, and yes, I was working in ProRes. “

    I’d suggest keeping your footage as it was shot, and flipping your external monitor if possible. It will be the cleanest/less buggy way. You will also deliver that way as well.

    Jeremy

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