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  • Why does 24pA footage captured with 2:3:3:2 pulldown still look bad?

    Posted by Austin Reedy on June 6, 2010 at 9:11 pm

    I’ve gone through a million tries and cant figure this out.

    the captured footage says its in 23.98, but still reads with the 29.97 fps code, i assume this makes sense b/c that’s how its shot, so the pulldown should just remove the frames that didn’t need to be there. but why does the footage still look bad? i have bad lines around sharp colors, especially red, and periodically the lines will have the jagged look as if its still in 29.97.

    can someone give me specific capturing settings to double check why mine aren’t working?

    Austin Reedy
    Freelance Post
    Austin, TX

    Michael Sacci replied 15 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    June 6, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    [Austin Reedy] “the captured footage says its in 23.98, but still reads with the 29.97 fps code, i assume this makes sense b/c that’s how its shot, so the pulldown should just remove the frames that didn’t need to be there”

    Correct. If you step through you will see frame numbers missing.

    [Austin Reedy] “but why does the footage still look bad?”

    What do you mean “still?” If it looked bad before, why would it look better if you remove the frames? And what do you mean by “look bad?” Stuttery? What? Are you too used to smooth video that 23.98 looks bad to you?

    [Austin Reedy] ” i have bad lines around sharp colors, especially red, and periodically the lines will have the jagged look as if its still in 29.97. “

    OK…that’s the DV codec…frame rate has NOTHING to do with that. Removing the pulldown will not make DV look better.

    Shane

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  • Austin Reedy

    June 6, 2010 at 9:58 pm

    ok, that’s what i’ve been hoping to hear. i assumed it was a frame issue because it almost looks like certain areas have frames slightly apart, but its a good chance it just looks bad i suppose. it looks that way when viewed through the deck, although that’s not a good option because everything looks bad that way. i’m going to pump out a test dvd soon to see how it looks after getting it out of fcp, and hope that some of the issue is resolved that way. otherwise its just got weird color bleed and so it goes…

    Austin Reedy
    Freelance Post
    Austin, TX

  • Michael Sacci

    June 7, 2010 at 1:20 am

    ???
    [Austin Reedy] ” although that’s not a good option because everything looks bad that way”
    Sounds like you have poorly shot footage.

    Going to DVD will make things worse, DV (especially bright reds) get blockier under m2v encoding.

    The only way things may get better is if you are not viewing the footage and an external monitor.

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