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  • Posted by Joel Fisher on April 16, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    Greetings,

    We have some footage coming in from a videographer that was shot at 25fps, AVCHD (I believe some Sony high-end consumer camera.)

    We need to convert/conform it to 23.98 ProRes, as the majority of our assets will be 23.98, and final delivery of the cuts will be 23.98 HDCAM SR.

    How does one convert hours of 25fps footage to 23.98, and do it well enough that it will pass QC? I know Cinema Tools provides a “conform to 23.98”, but that slows it down, slightly, with pitch shift and everything… and doesn’t seem to play back very well. Any other options, most especially through Compressor?

    Thanks in advance!

    Nick Meyers replied 16 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Aaron Neitz

    April 16, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    Make a 23.98 compressor preset, set Frame Controls to High for rate conversion. It’ll do an OK job.

  • Joel Fisher

    April 16, 2010 at 10:11 pm

    Thanks, giving it a whirl… will let you know how it goes. The 00:00:03:19 test clip is taking 15 minutes+, so I may end up tweaking a couple settings, but hopefully this is the ticket. I also set the Duration to 100%, under the frame controls.

  • Aaron Neitz

    April 16, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    Do you have a MacPro? You really want to set up for cluster rendering ….. it takes a LOT of time when you crank those frame controls up.

  • Joel Fisher

    April 16, 2010 at 10:17 pm

    Right, it’s actually an 8-core with 12GB RAM.

    In the end (17 minutes later), it looks fairly poor… very apparent interlace fields.

    Will try a couple other settings, but certainly chime in if you or anyone else have thoughts!

  • Michael Gissing

    April 16, 2010 at 10:41 pm

    The repeated mantra in these common conversion threads is that good hardware conversion through a Teranex or similar high end converter is the ticket. All the software options are incredibly slow and second best when they do their best.

    If you use software conversion on the rushes, you might then selectively redo the final clips with the Teranex and drop them into the final edit.

  • Phil Balsdon

    April 17, 2010 at 8:45 am

    Cinema Tools might do this for you.

    Cinematographer, Steadicam Operator, Final Cut Pro Post Production.
    https://www.steadi-onfilms.com.au/

  • Arnie Schlissel

    April 17, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    [Phil Balsdon] “Cinema Tools might do this for you.”

    Not with AVCHD it won’t. CT will not do frame rate conforms on any long-GOP material.

    I would use Compressor to pull it up from 23.98 to 25, frame for frame. If you want, you can then use Soundtrack Pro to re-pitch the audio.

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
    https://www.arniepix.com/

  • Nick Meyers

    April 18, 2010 at 1:51 am

    i dont think compressor does that.

    i’d use compressor to create a ProRes version with the same frame rate,
    THEN use cinema tools to conform to 23.98

    nick

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