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  • 1 Person arguing with him self, 2 on screen.

    Posted by Nathan Hart on April 6, 2010 at 4:23 am

    Hi there people,

    Ok so basically let me tell you what i want to achieve. Recently i have been doing some stuff for a client here in Oz that basically involves me shooting some battle rapping (8 Mile Style) cutting it together and outputting, fairly basic stuff and its at times very entertaining, allways offensive. An interesting project to work on none the less (https://www.gotbeefbattles.com – if you want to see)

    I want to do some thing more creative, i have teamed up with a very talented emcee who together, we want to make a video of him battling him self. My basic understanding of this technique is to have a static camera, split it down the middle of the frame, shoot left and right each separately then splice together in Final Cut. As long as the camera remains 100% ‘locked off’ then you shouldnt have a problem with this at all.

    But is there any easy way i can do some basic movement with out spending hours with a tracking matte or similar. Im also guessing movement would have to be identical on both right scenes (left & right?)

    Is there an advanced 3rd party plugin for this that i dont know about for FCP?

    And does this have an editing term when attempting this so maybe i can look around for a plugin?

    thanks so much for your help it is much appreciated.

    Kind regards.

    Nathan (byhart films)

    Mark Suszko replied 16 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Simon Hustings

    April 6, 2010 at 8:41 am

    I’m not aware of any plugins and I don’t know what format you are currently shooting and what your deliverables have to be but, if for example, you shot HiDef and delivered Standard Def then you would have a canvas/frame size that is twice as big as you actually need. If you laid the HD footage on to an SD timeline, you could do some basic motion effects (dolly, pan etc) in post without losing overall quality.

    The other option would be to shoot your MC battle against bluescreen, key him (or in this case, I guess “him” would be “them”) out and then have fun with comping instead!

    All the best,

    Simon

    “Is it me or do I spend half my life watching little grey bars turn into little blue bars??”

  • Nathan Hart

    April 6, 2010 at 9:50 am

    Thanks for your response much appreciatted. I will be shooting HD on a canon 550D DSLR either that or perhaps a panasonic P2 format. By I’m 90% sure it will be 1080p.

    I likethe green screen idea, I’m just not that experienced in Compositing, I’ve done it before and understand the process and I do have access to a green screen studio for free so that could work.

    In terms of output I would prefer to keep it at least 720 as it will most likely end up on YouTube and vimeo. hoping for it to go some what viral at least in the hip hop community.

    Thanks again for your response if you have any other suggestions it’s much appreacitted.

  • Arnie Schlissel

    April 6, 2010 at 12:53 pm

    The editing term is “split screen”. Look up “crop” in your FCP manual.

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
    https://www.arniepix.com/

  • Mark Suszko

    April 6, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    By shooting takes of both sides on green screen, you can have the guys circle each other as they rap and one body will realistically overlap the other. If they move around each other at a set speed, you can comp in a seamless looping moving background with the right speed, and get the effect of a complete “in the round” circular dolly track shot, all from one fixed camera position!

    The biggest issue with these effects is always the timing: it requires a very consistent performance from take to take, generally you pick one side/one take as a master, and then play that back on the set over and over, with audio, as the actor learns the pacing and adjusts his performance to match it.

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