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  • Constant rendering in FCP 6

    Posted by Preston Orrick on September 13, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    Okay, so I’ve been editing in FCP 6 for a while, with Unlimited RT working fine. Any changes I made to my video, such as moving or scaling the footage would be fine.

    But now, if I scale or move the footage, it requires a whole re-render. Before, the timeline was just orange, but now it is red requiring a rerender if I move or scale the footage??

    I’ve matched the sequence settings to the raw footage settings several times, tried easy setup, nothing seems to work.

    Any thoughts?

    Tim Morley replied 13 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    September 13, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    Precise info is needed if you want a precise answer…

    What codec/format/framerate are you using? Please tell us exactly what you see in the browser please.

    Now, go to Sequence>>Settings and tell us what you see there please.

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  • Preston Orrick

    September 14, 2009 at 12:05 am

    For the video, the settings are as follows:

    Format: Quicktime
    Vid Rate: 23.98 fps
    Frame Size: 960 x 720
    Compressor: H.264
    Pixel Aspect: HD (960×720)

    Now for the Sequence Settings:

    Frame Size: 960×720
    Aspect Ratio: HD (960 x 720) (16:9)
    Pixel Aspect Ratio: HD (960×720)
    Editing Timebase: 23.98
    Compressor: H.264

  • David Roth weiss

    September 14, 2009 at 12:14 am

    The problem is h.264. It’s a delivery codec, not an editing codec, and as such is not supported as a realtime codec in FCP.

    So, what was the source of the video file? If you captured from tape it should be recaptured. If it’s a client file you should either get them to redo it, or transcode to a codec such as ProRes or DVDProHD.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

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  • Preston Orrick

    September 14, 2009 at 12:23 am

    Hey, thanks for the quick replies.

    Okay, so H264 is a no go for editing. I tried bringing in another video file. The settings are as follows:

    Vid Rate: 29.97 fps
    Frame Size: 1620 x 1080
    Compressor: HDV 1080i60
    Data Rate: 3.2mb/sec
    Pixel Aspect: Square

    Sequence Settings:

    Frame Size: 1620 x 1080
    Aspect Ratio: Custom (3:2)
    Pixel Aspect Ratio: Square
    Field Dominance: None
    Editing Timebase: 29.97
    Compressor: HDV 1080i60

    … and it is still requiring me to render if I move or scale the clip.

  • David Roth weiss

    September 14, 2009 at 12:28 am

    Okay, as a test, open a new sequence, drop one of those new HDV files onto the timeline and answer “yes” when teh pop up asks if you want FCP to match the settings to the clip.

    Also, 1620×1080 is an odd file size. Where did that one come from? 1440×1080 is the common HDV pixel dimension of HDV.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

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  • Shane Ross

    September 14, 2009 at 12:29 am

    [Preston Orrick] “Vid Rate: 29.97 fps
    Frame Size: 1620 x 1080
    Compressor: HDV 1080i60 “

    What? What kind of dimensions are those? HDV is 1440×1080, not 1620. Where did you get these files? This is not the normal dimensions for HDV, so you will be rendering.

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  • Preston Orrick

    September 14, 2009 at 12:59 am

    Okay, I got it working again. So, I was working with H264, which wasn’t going to work.

    And I changed the odd dimensions to 1440 x 1080 and the timeline is green again, and I can move and scale the clip with no problems.

    Thanks guys 😀

  • Jaron Gandelman

    October 2, 2009 at 4:18 am

    Hi,

    I’ve followed above suggestions and converted .mov files into dv using MPEG Streamclip converter, but I still keep having to render. These are my settings:

    Frame size: 720×480 (NTSC DV 3:2)
    Pixel aspect ratio: NTSC – CCIR 601 / DV (720×480)
    Field dominance: Lower (even)
    Editing Timebase: 29.97
    Compressor: DV/DVCPRO – NTSC

    The video was originally shot on a Flip camera. Thanks for any feedback

  • Preston Orrick

    October 2, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    I’d have to say that FCP is not the best program for scaling and moving clips; editing yes, but anything else, I’ll gladly take it to AfterFX.

  • Tim Morley

    April 12, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    This is one of many, many forum pages I’ve read through trying to solve a very similar problem — being made to re-render after every slight change to every clip, making progress nigh on impossible. I had sequence settings exactly matching the clips I was importing, and was using reasonable codecs — same result with Apple Animation and Apple ProRes 422.

    But then I solved it. 🙂

    The problem was the non-standard resolution I was using (1440×900, screencasting my full laptop screen). As soon as I started recording the screencast clips at 1280×720, using ProRes 422, FCP started cooperating and was happy to manipulate the video clips as it should.

    That’s two weeks I’ll never get back, but hey, I’m making progress now!

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