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3000 hours of Beta SP, best way to capture?
We have to capture 3000 hours of Beta-SP, we want to keep the quality of 8-bit, but we also want to get the maximum storage space without losing quality, any ideas? which format should we use?
thanks alotNigel
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IMX 30, 40 or 50.
422, fairly small and good enoughBest gain in quality is to get at least BVW players to ingest.
(The noise of an UVW will kill you..)
Or experiment with SX decks. (Beta SP compatible, dirt cheap second hand)hth,
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I would test DVCPro50 also, it would probably be smaller than ProRes, is 4:2:2. It is 8-Bit also.
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[Michael Sacci] “I would test DVCPro50 also, it would probably be smaller than ProRes, is 4:2:2. It is 8-Bit also.”
And NOT windows compatible.
With that amount of footage, i would not take the risk..Bouke
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[Bouke Vahl] ”
And NOT windows compatible.
With that amount of footage, i would not take the risk.. “Why the heck does this need to be Windows compatible? The OP didn’t mention any need for that.
Having this much footage is the reason that the offline/online workflow exists. Do you NEED to have all of this available too you at full res? Even at DV50, that will take up a LOT of space. Just asking.
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[Shane Ross] “Why the heck does this need to be Windows compatible? The OP didn’t mention any need for that.”
No, he did not, but i wanted to mention it anyways.
To answer your question:
CAUSE IT’S 3000 HOURS!Perhaps you work in a Mac only shop, most companies that have more than a few people around use windows or a mix.
Now, after ingesting 3000 hours, how are you going to explain to anyone that windows use is not possible?Now answer my question:
You are answering more questions alone than the rest of the Cow users together, yet you feel it is strange to warn someone in advance?Bouke
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[Bouke Vahl] “And NOT windows compatible.
With that amount of footage, i would not take the risk.. “We’re in a Final Cut Pro forum, why would he want Windows Compatible footage? He doesn’t mention this at all and seem irrelevant to this posting.
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[Nigel Askew] “We have to capture 3000 hours of Beta-SP, we want to keep the quality of 8-bit, but we also want to get the maximum storage space without losing quality, any ideas? which format should we use?
thanks alot “Do you have to edit with all of this at once or do you need to capture, then archive it somewhere for retrieval on an as need basis?
If you need it all at once, the suggestions of DV50 are not bad, but the graphics quality will suffer if you edit in a DV50 timeline. You might be able to capture DV50 then edit in a ProRes timeline if you have a fast enough system to do this in realtime.
ProRes is a good option as you get slightly smaller captures with good graphics quality maintained. I would do this or straight 8bit SD Uncompressed if you’re looking to archive this material and then retrieve it at a later date.
If you go to Digital Heaven’s website, you can download a free data rate calculator that will tell you how much storage you will require for the various data rates. based on those numbers, you can decide which is the best route for you. Be prepared for a LOT of hard drive storage.
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Walter,
the OP asked ‘any ideas’
Well, i have some,
Do you?Now i’m REALLY tired of this, don’t bother to ask me again on the subject (That goes for you and Shane, not for the OP).
Bouke
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PhotoJPEG – hands down best 8 bit codec to file size ratio that’s out there. Any Blackmagic card can capture to it but I’m sure there are other card brands that work with it.
You can find info about PhotoJPEG here under 4:2:2 C here.
https://www.onerivermedia.com/codecs/check out my shorts: https://vimeo.com/marttiekstrand
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[Martti Ekstrand] “PhotoJPEG – hands down best 8 bit codec to file size ratio that’s out there.”
However, PhotoJPEG is unfortunately not a realtime codec supported in FCP.
Would you really want to capture 3000 hours of video for editing in FCP in a codec that isn’t a RT codec in FCP?
Not me!
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