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  • Panasonic HVX footage looks chunky in timeline?

    Posted by Joshua Rule on July 9, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    I have some 960 x 720 30p footage I brought into after effects straight from the source files that I ingested from final cut.

    The stuff looks great in Final Cut and even in After effects when I double click on the file and open it up.

    However as soon as I drag the footage onto the make new composition and view the footage in from the after effects timeline. The aspect looks correct however it looks compressed or chunky? This makes no sense.

    Everything is set to high quality. The clip the view window.

    I have tried exporting from final as 1080 x 720 but still having the same results…looks great in quicktime player looks great in after effects when you preview the clip outside the timeline but once I put the footage into a composition it instantly looks pixely and chunky.

    pixel aspect correction is off.

    any ideas?

    Joshua Rule replied 18 years, 10 months ago 5 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Roland R. kahlenberg

    July 9, 2007 at 6:49 pm

    Not too familiar with the camera but it’s 1280×720 and not 1080×720 if it’s going to be square pixels. Could that be the reason why your PAR is off.

    Cheers
    Roland Kahlenberg
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  • Joshua Rule

    July 9, 2007 at 6:53 pm

    yeah…that is what I meant…duh.

    what is also interesting…just exporting a still frame from quicktime pro…it also looks chunky…so I don’t know im sure there is something I don’t know about

  • Alexander Gao

    July 9, 2007 at 10:21 pm

    Did you interpret your footage correctly to 30p w/ the right pixel aspect ratio in the “Interpret Footage” dialog box? Just a check.

    Thanks,
    Alexander Gao

    “When the revolution happens, I’ll be leading it.”

  • Joshua Rule

    July 9, 2007 at 10:51 pm

    yes sir.

  • Brendan Coots

    July 10, 2007 at 12:08 am

    Can you render a still frame out of AE for us to see (Apple>ALT>S)?

    It could be several things, but without seeing the problem it’s hard to say.

  • Matt Riley

    July 10, 2007 at 1:27 am

    I work with P2 footage in AE all the time (it’s my online/finish tool for P2 projects) and it always looks great. Perhaps there is something wonky with your AE install. Have you tried reinstalling, just to see what happens?

    If you want to post a small clip, I’d be willing to download it and look at it for you on my systems (AE CS3 beta and AE 7 pro).

    -Matt

  • Joshua Rule

    July 10, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    Actually that wasn’t it. I had tried that. The makes sense though.

    What I figured out is that my export settings from final cut had changed. It was coming over 1280 x 720 with the wrong pixel aspect ratio which AE was trying to fix i think. Also I think the preset was making it 29.97 which is not how the footage was captured. I actually think that was the main problem.

    My settings for export from final cut ended up being:

    frame size HD 960 x 720 (16×9)
    pixel aspect ratio: HD 960×720
    editing timebase: 59.94
    timecode rate: same as editing timebase
    compressor: animation
    quality: 100%

    settings from AE:

    interpret footage:
    frame rate: 59.94
    separate fields: off
    pixel ration: square

    comp settings:
    preset HDTV 1280×720
    pixel ratio: square
    frame rate: 59.94

    thanks!

  • Matt Riley

    July 10, 2007 at 6:49 pm

    Why are you rendering footage coming out of FCP to go into AE? You should be using the Export command in FCP rather than Export using QuickTime Conversion (in most cases). If you use the Export command in FCP, it can make a reference movie of your edit, which is generally much smaller than a full export because it references the original media (and avoids transcoding issues). Then, AE can import this and work with it like you would expect. Unless there is some reason you need to work in the animation codec in AE, you are probably just creating more hassle (and more GB of media!) for yourself than you need.

    If you plan on doing a lot of FCP to AE type of workflow, I would suggest investing in Pro Import AE from Automatic Duck. It’s one of those “magically delicious” products that makes life so much easier you can’t imagine not having it after using it once. This is what I do on a regular basis: Edit P2 material in FCP, export to xml, use autoduck to import the edit/sequence into AE and finish there. It’s actually a pretty fantastic workflow.

    -Matt

  • Joshua Rule

    July 10, 2007 at 7:53 pm

    ooh. that sounds delicious.

    Good points. That makes much more sense.

    Thanks!

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