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output multiformats
Posted by Mariana Sussekind on July 8, 2009 at 4:19 amHello, I have one more question.
I am working on a video project that has been recorded on 3 formats:Panasonic DVCPRO HD 720p
Sony Z1 HDV 1080 (in miniDV tapes)
Canon 5DThe major part is from the Sony Z1.
Which is the best format to output this project ?
Thankyou again,
MarianaShane Ross replied 17 years, 1 month ago 4 Members · 4 Replies -
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Nick Meyers
July 8, 2009 at 11:31 amhi, mariana,
i haven’t seen your previous posts, so am coming to this with a “blank” perspective.
the output really depends on what format you need to deliver in.
either contractually, or according to your screening needsthese days, that rarely has any baring on what format it was shot in!
for what it’s worth, a popular, and good, codec for editing in, is Prores.
cheers,
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Mariana Sussekind
July 8, 2009 at 5:56 pmHi Nick,
I am editing with 3 formats together .
The canon5D H264 mov , DVCPROHD 720 30p and HDV 1080 60i. I wil output the final edit into a DVD and keep an QT with the best resolution possible.
What timeline should I edit on? DVCPROHD 720 30p or HDV 1080 60i ?
Should I transform the final edit into a ProRes? Or should I transform everything into this ProRes before editing starts.
Sory but I have not used the ProRes yet.
Thakyou for your time,
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Russell Lasson
July 8, 2009 at 6:06 pmI personally would convert everything to ProRes, then edit.
The other option would be to set your sequence to ProRes 1920×1080 with square pixels, then just adjust your render settings to render complex stuff when you need. I don’t like this option as much, but it could work fine.
-Russ
Russell Lasson
Colorist/Digital Cinema Specialist
Color Mill
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Shane Ross
July 8, 2009 at 6:08 pmH.264 is not an editing codec…that needs to be converted before you edit, period. ProRes is the best option. But then you have three different formats and two different frame sizes…and two different frame rates. 720p30 still runs at 60fps, as 720p is a 60 frame format, unless you shot 30pN to get exactly 30fps, that is only available on the P2 models. If this is the case, then you only have to deal with different formats and frame sizes.
Can FCP mix these in the edit…sure. Is it the best way to edit? Well, for an offline cut or quick edit, sure. Might even be fine for DVD. But you need to choose a good Sequence setting. ProRes would be a good one. But in your boots I would convert everything to one format and one frame size before editing. That means you have a uniform format to deal with, and no rendering. You can get by with what you have, but you will have a lot of rendering to do.
This isn’t the best way to do it, but it can work. 720p blown up by FCP to 1080 isn’t the best quality. Better to use Compressor to upconvert. But you can do that after you lock picture, but that means a lot of hours and lots of work.
Currently I am dealing with a project that I took over halfway through the edit. 60% of the footage is DVCPRO HD 720p 23.98, and 40% is HDV 1080i60, but shot at 24f with an HV20. And the other editor just started cutting….didn’t convert anything. Does it look OK? yeah, it does. But the rendered HDV footage (I am on a DVCPRO HD timeline) tends to look stroby and does still cause the system to lag a little. What should have happened is the editor needed to convert ALL the HDV to DVCPRO HD, and remove pulldown to get it to 23.98 before editing began. Now I have to deal with it after the fact that that will take a lot of time separating out the footage, then media managing only what is used, then using compressor to convert and reverse telecine. Compressor alone will take days.
So it might be wise to do all the work up front, as it will take less time in the long run. But eat up more space.
Shane
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