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HDV or Pro Res?
Hi
I’ve inherited a project where an assistant editor digitized the HDV footage with the HDV 1080i 60 codec…my timeline is Apple Pro Res 422 – is there any advantage to having him re digitize the HDV footage using Pro Res, or should I not bother? Any quality gain using Pro Res?
Thanks
K
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Kent,
Your assistant seems to have gotten at least part of the equation wrong. There is a good case for editing native HDV until completion, then changing the compressor settings in Sequence>>Settings to Pro Res, then re-rendering. However, editing HDV in a Pro Res timeline is like editing any other file type mismatch, which is to say, a big problem, especially as every change will require a render.
David
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Yeup, You will experience nightmares handling HDV in a ProRes sequence. HDV is the devils codec!
Peter
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If the footage is HDV, you can edit in an HDV timeline and set the render to be ProRes. I wouldn’t recommend editing HDV in a ProRes timeline. There is no point to this when you can set the render as ProRes in the HDV sequence.
Otherwise convert your HDV to ProRes with compressor rather than recapture. I often online HDV captured material and render to ProRes and on a G5 with 10.4.11, it is no problem. So it cam be done, as these projects were captured and edited in HDV. It isn’t ideal as an edit codec, particularly on long form, but it isn’t the anti christ either.
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So are you saying just make my timeline HDV, not Pro Res, set the render to Pro Res and it’ll look good?
Slight update: I also have a few 1280x x720 and XDcam shots in the timeline…should I still set seq to HDV or keep Pro Res?
Thanks
K
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[Kent Beeson] “So are you saying just make my timeline HDV, not Pro Res, set the render to Pro Res and it’ll look good?”
Yep. It is the same ProRes when you render, but you leave the render process till later rather than every time you edit. As David points out any mismatch between sequence and footage will be a problem. The XDCam footage will render as ProRes from within the HDV sequence.
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Thanks so much for all the help everybody!
Thanks
K
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there is no problem using ProRes as the TL codec, and putting in HDV, photojpeg, ProRes, animation, MjpegB. I do this everyday mixing HD and SD of various flavors. nothing will blow up, nothing weird will happen.
in fact, FCP will give you more RT by settings the TL to ProRes rather then HDV or just about anything else. ProRes also has 1440 and 1280 settings to accomodate less then full res flavors of HD.
load as HDV, edit in ProRes TL – its the very same thing as having a HDV TL and setting it to use ProRes to render with.
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get it out of HDV as you injest the material
there is an easy setup for Firewire HDv to prores using intel mac
I strongly suggest this option
only issue is timecode accurate recapturing isnt possible with Firewire youd need more pro connections and deck if needing to reconform
to avoid that problem, just a thought, get the media you have captured to prores and back up to a second hard drive
avoid trying to go back to HDV tapes, they are a nightmare to bring in, they are a nightmare to edit, they are a nightmare
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