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  • EDL from Premiere CS4 to Final Cut

    Posted by Mika Raatikainen on May 15, 2009 at 1:34 pm

    Hi, I’m having trouble importing edl-files from Premiere CS4 to Final Cut. For some reason Premiere names the clips after the reel-name, instead of the clip itself. So basically the edl imports to FCP without trouble, and all the edit points etc are correct, but every clip has the same name, thus making it very time-consuming to reconnect the clips, which really defeats the purpose of using edl’s. Is there a way to edit Premiere’s edl-preferences more in-depth than the export window?

    Or if there’s a better way to export a project from Premiere to Final Cut?

    The weird thing is that the name of the clip is in the file, under the timecodes.

    Heres what the edl looks like:

    TITLE: edl_test
    FCM: NON-DROP FRAME

    001 mika V C 03:29:12:14 03:30:19:09 00:00:00:00 00:01:06:24
    * FROM CLIP NAME: 0005XP.mov

    002 mika V C 03:30:49:05 03:34:32:12 00:01:06:24 00:04:50:00
    * FROM CLIP NAME: 0007VH.mov

    003 mika V C 00:00:00:00 00:00:11:20 00:04:50:00 00:05:01:20
    * FROM CLIP NAME: 0001U2.mov

    FCM: DROP FRAME

    PS. I posted this on the Premiere forum as well, but haven’t received any answers yet. Thanks in advance for any assistance.

    Mika Raatikainen replied 16 years, 12 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Rafael Amador

    May 15, 2009 at 3:26 pm

    Hi Mika,
    Try exporting an XML from Premier.
    Should works better than an EDL.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Mika Raatikainen

    May 15, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Does the XML export become available by updating Premiere or is it a plugin? The one we have is freshly installed, and doesn’t have the option to export XML’s, just the EDL.

  • Rafael Amador

    May 15, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    Sorry Mika but no idea how to export an XML from Premier.
    rafael

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Eric Jurgenson

    May 15, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    No XML project export from Premiere unless it is coming with the 4.1 update, which is due later this month. You can export AAF, which could then be imported into FCP with Automatic Duck.

  • Mika Raatikainen

    May 16, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Thanks for the advice. I’ll try the AAF-export. Let’s hope Adobe adds the XML export function in the near-future.

  • Doug Beal

    May 18, 2009 at 4:54 am

    Edl’s are from the days of linear editing where the reel name (actually reel number) is the unique identifier, timecode being the address of the shot being requested, duration being the length of time the shot is used. Primarily driven by master sort as opposed to source sort. In the linear situation the tape machines would be loaded with whatever source reels were about to be laid into the master, a blacked and coded piece of tape upon which the footage is inserted.
    when this format is used to exchange data between systems it becomes essential to digitize material with correct reel numbers, and generally a system standardized for this purpose. ie cam1 reel 1 might be tape 101, cam2 reel 1 might be 102, cam 3 reel 1 might be 103 and so on in a multi camera shoot. the numbers assigned to the tapes should be marked on the tape. console tape and a sharpie work well for this. clip name is considered a comment.
    EDL’s are still used commonly today. video layer 1 is the only layer that will translate properly, anything on layer 2 is considered a “Key” like text or a bug. Linear editors could not multilayer in time, to get multiple layers multiple passes and possibly multiple submasters would be generated, particularly if changes were anticipated. if the linear suite had multiple motion effect boxes, layers could be built in fewer passes through the use of a switcher and GPIs and in some cases the editors hand on a dissolve paddle. Once it was recorded it would be reviewed and accepted or redone.

    Non linear editing changed that scenario HOWEVER reel numbers and timecode rule in EDLs. that hasn’t and isn’t likely to change.
    Premiere is parsing the EDL properly and passing that data on but the person who digitized the footage didn’t preserve the unique identifier, the Reel Number

    Doug Beal
    Editor / Engineer
    Rock Creative Images
    Nashville TN

  • Mika Raatikainen

    May 19, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Thanks for your indepth advice. I’m quite new to professional editing and had only Wikipedia-knowledge about the EDL’s. Your response clarified a lot of issues for me.

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