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  • Recapturing timeline to HDV

    Posted by Richard Fulop on May 11, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    I’m trying to recapture my timeline in HDV. The original footage was shot in HDV on a Z1U, but captured and edited in DV. Now I’m trying to recapture the finished timeline in HDV, but I’m obviously having some issues or I wouldn’t be writing this. FCP is having difficulty finding timecode. It will rewind the tape, hit the beginning and stop. Out of 49 tapes so far I’ve been able to capture 2. I’m about to try adding massive handles to the batch capture to see if that helps. If anyone else has any ideas I’d love to hear it.

    Michael Gissing replied 17 years, 3 months ago 3 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    May 11, 2009 at 6:36 pm

    MASSIVE HANDLES…that might be the issue. Did you CAPTURE NOW when you originally captured this footage? Did you start right from the start of the tape, as in pressed play, then hit CAPTURE NOW? Because if you did not leave at least 6 seconds of pre-roll before you did this, FCP cannot recapture. It needs 5 seconds of pre-roll…and then 1 second of wiggle room. THis is why people record 30 seconds of color bars…to ensure enough pre-roll.

    Also, did you media manage the project to tell it to capture as HDV?

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
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  • Richard Fulop

    May 11, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    Unfortunately I didn’t digitize the original footage. Otherwise it would have been in HDV already. But I don’t believe it was captured using CAPTURE NOW. What I have noticed is the difference between capturing DV and HDV, where HDV is breaking up the tape into many separate clips, and DV runs straight through with only one clip. Anyway, most of the footage I’m trying to capture is mid-tape, and I’m using 10 sec of pre-roll and 5 sec of post-roll, and 5 sec handles.
    And yes, when I media managed I did set to HDV. God I hate tapes.

  • Shane Ross

    May 11, 2009 at 7:28 pm

    [Richard Fulop] “What I have noticed is the difference between capturing DV and HDV, where HDV is breaking up the tape into many separate clips, and DV runs straight through with only one clip.”

    Yeah, but unless you have a clip in the timeline that includes a shot that changes like this, camera start and stop, you shouldn’t run into this.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
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  • Richard Fulop

    May 11, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    So Shane do you have any actual suggestions or just comments.

  • Shane Ross

    May 11, 2009 at 9:15 pm

    No reason to get snarky. 🙂

    Well, how about questions?

    Are the tapes properly labelled? Do you have the right tape in when you try to recapture the clip? Are you trying to capture in groups…groups of clips? As in all from TAPE 1, or tape 2?

    Highlight one clip, one that has timecode that is not near the beginning of the tape, try to recapture that one. Does FCP still rewind the tape all they way?

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Richard Fulop

    May 11, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    I resorted to this method and yes it just rewinds to the beginning or sits in limbo trying to find the timecode.

  • Shane Ross

    May 11, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    Looking at the timecode numbers on the clip…does that number exist on the tape?

    Hmmm…another question. Were the DV tapes captured with no deck control? Meaning using the setting UNCONTROLLED DEVICE? If that was done, all the footage will start at 00:00:00:00, and the timecode will be useless, as it won’t match what is on the tape. When you shoot on tape the cameras default to hour 1 code…1:00:00:00. If the tapes are trying to rewind BEFORE that, then I suspect that they are trying to go to a timecode that doesn’t exist…

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
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  • Richard Fulop

    May 11, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    Didn’t use an UNCONTROLLABLE DEVICE. When I go and check the item properties of a clip in my timeline it will give me the proper IN and OUT as well as the correct tape, which are all correctly named. But even when I set up the camera right close to where the timecode corresponds, and attempt to capture it, it still rewinds or sits in limbo, trying in vain to find the missing timecode.

  • Shane Ross

    May 11, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Well then, you have tapped me out.

    Good luck.

    Shane

    GETTING ORGANIZED WITH FINAL CUT PRO DVD…don’t miss it.
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Michael Gissing

    May 11, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    If you are recapturing for final online, then I am not sure why you are going back to the head of the tape and stopping. In Media Manager, it is important to make an offline version, deleting all media outside of selection and setting small but useful handles. With HDv, I rarely choose handles more than 12 frames and pre roll of 4 seconds. # seconds is the minimum to get HDV locked and so I go for the minumum reliable pre roll to avoid rolling over shot boundaries.

    I also hope you have unticked the option in the capture window to break clips on camera stop starts.

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