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Shane or Walter RE: PVM 14L5 setup…
Posted by Chris Borjis on October 25, 2008 at 12:32 amas you both may or may not recall I too have a sony pvm 14L5 crt monitor
I use for monitoring and color correction.something that I’ve noticed that would be nice to fix is when
I switch between SD & HD so does the calibration.with the blue only gun on, when I feed it component from my AJA Kona Lh-E.
when I send NTSC bars the Chroma has to be 49 & Brightness at 0
when I send HDTV bars the Chroma has to be 46 & Brightness +10
I’ve calibrated lots of CRT monitors by eye with blue only for the chroma
setup and the gray in the pluge for the brightness and it’s pretty darn
accurate (very close but a probe would no doubt nail it). by the way, Contrast and Phase are just fine on both.my question is this, does your proper setup maintain when you switch sd to hd?
I looked in the manual and saved memory presets 1 for SD and 2 for HD but they
don’t seem to pre-load when the crt switches from SD to HD which is kind of a bummer.any ideas?
anyone at all?
Alan Okey replied 16 years, 3 months ago 5 Members · 11 Replies -
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Walter Biscardi
October 25, 2008 at 12:35 am[Chris Borjis] “my question is this, does your proper setup maintain when you switch sd to hd?
“No because the setup is different for each. You must reset your monitor depending on whether you are working with SD or HD material.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Walter Biscardi
October 25, 2008 at 1:11 am[Chris Borjis] “I wish it would remember the settings dependent on HD or SD input
but oh we”I believe the $30,000 version of the monitor does that. It has multiple presets you can quickly switch to. I’ll stick with the PVM’s. 🙂
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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Chris Borjis
October 25, 2008 at 1:23 amah ok, thats good to know.
I wish it would remember the settings dependent on HD or SD input
but oh well.have a nice weekend man. 🙂
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Shane Ross
October 25, 2008 at 1:38 amWalter had the answer….you have to balance it for HD or for SD, not both. But still it is a great monitor. SD, HD, PAL, NTSC…it does it all!
Shane
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Alan Okey
October 28, 2008 at 3:09 amChris,
I have a PVM 20L5 and I noticed the same thing.
I was able to tweak settings in the service menu so that I don’t need to change any of my settings when moving between SD and HD. What I discovered is that the PVM-L series of monitors actually has discrete memory settings for each resolution and frequency, so you can set up the monitor for a given resolution and it won’t affect the settings for other resolutions. It’s a feature that’s not documented in the users manual.
FYI, I wouldn’t recommend getting into the service menu unless you know EXACTLY what you’re doing.
What I found even more interesting is that not only does the PVM-L series have discrete setting memory for each resolution and frequency, it also has discrete setting memory for both underscan/overscan and 4:3/16:9 aspect ratios within the same resolution and frequency – i.e. if you change settings in the service menu for NTSC 29.97i with underscan switched off (standard overscan mode), it doesn’t affect the settings for NTSC 29.97i with underscan switched on. Ditto for aspect ratio. Pretty cool. This lets you set ideal geometry and color settings for each resolution, aspect ratio and overscan mode without compromise.
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Chris Borjis
October 28, 2008 at 5:50 pmAlan do you remember the procedure to setup brightness and chroma?
thats all I need to do. Phase and contrast are perfect in the SD/HD modes which
makes sense now as of what you mentioned.also, did you ever figure out how to get out of the “Aging mode” I saw your post. 🙂
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Alan Okey
October 29, 2008 at 5:32 amHi Chris,
Here’s what I did:
Enter the service menu by first calling up the regular menu, then press ENTER and DEGAUSS simultaneously.
Next, grab a pen and paper – you should definitely write down any existing values before changing any settings so that you can get back to your starting point.
Feed SMPTE color bars into your monitor.
In the service menu, go to SIG > WHITE BALANCE and you’ll see adjustments for SUB CONTRAST and SUB BRIGHT. These allow you to tweak brightness (black level) and contrast (white level) without changing the front panel button settings – i.e., if you’re at 0 on the front panel buttons, changing these values will leave the front panel buttons at 0 despite the image change. Pressing ENTER brings up the adjustment screen for each parameter. The UP and DOWN buttons change the currently selected parameter value. Pressing MENU will return you to the previous screen without saving your changes – this is a nice feature, as it gives you an instant A/B comparison between your new value and the original setting. To save your changes, you must first press ENTER.
Notice that setting values change when you switch on UNDERSCAN or 16:9. That’s because each mode has its own setting memory. Even the combination of 16:9 and UNDERSCAN together has its own discrete setting memory. You’ll find that in addition to discrete setting memory for the underscan and aspect ratio modes, the monitor has discrete setting memories for 480/60i, 480/60p, 720p and 1080i frequencies as well.
If you need to adjust chroma levels, try entering SIG > LEVEL-1 and adjusting CHROMA PB and CHROMA PR, making sure to keep them balanced proportionally. You can still use the BLUE ONLY button from within the service menu for proper saturation and phase calibration.
I’m not sure if the monitor has discrete setting memories for chroma or not, but it’s worth investigating.
I can’t remember how I eventually got out of aging mode, but I won’t repeat that mistake again!
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Chris Borjis
October 29, 2008 at 10:32 pmAlan that worked for the brightness but not on chroma.
it’s much closer now (within 2 numbers) though.
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Glen Berdan
June 2, 2010 at 8:21 amShame on me sir, but i have a problem with my PVM 20L5 monitor…i accidentally turn that AGING mode on the service menu..now i dnt know a way to exit it manually, i am hoping someone here can help me.
many thanks.
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Shane Ross
June 2, 2010 at 2:02 pmAGING mode? Never heard of it. I’m not anywhere near my monitor now, so I can’t get to this until tonight. But there should be a factory reset….
Shane
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