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  • QuickTime Timecode / Cinema Tools Issue

    Posted by Doug Metz on October 24, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Greetings All,

    I have a pile of footage shot with an HVX200 to P2 cards, SD DVCPro 24p. It shows up on ingest @ 29.97, and looks to be 2:3:2:3. This, in and of itself, should not be a problem to reverse telecine to get the desired output. I repeat, shouldn’t be problematic.

    If I try a batch reverse with Cinema Tools, I get the desired framerate out, but the reversal isn’t pretty – terrible interlacing artifacts every 4th frame. On a hunch, I ran the same footage through JES Deinterlacer. Beautiful output, but… the timecode track isn’t corrected for the framerate change. QuickTime Player correctly reports the framerate @ 23.98.

    So now I have two sets of files: Cinema Tools batch with awful video but perfect timecode, and JES batch with perfect video and wonky timecode. I thought about moving the good timecode tracks to the good video files, but that seems to be a non-starter. I tried to paste the good video into the good timecode, but the result is soft video and extra audio and timecode tracks. All of this seems to be a lot of mucking about for something that shouldn’t be a problem.

    Anybody have some insight?

    Thanks!

    Doug Metz

    Anode

    Doug Metz replied 17 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 24, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    1) Use Compressor and it’s Reverse Telecine feature and then set up a batch that way.

    2) You have to set the A frame in Cinema Tools. Meaning on each clip, you will have to tell Cinema Tools where the A frame is so there’s no batching

    3) See number 1

    Jeremy

  • Doug Metz

    October 24, 2008 at 7:53 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “1) Use Compressor and it’s Reverse Telecine feature and then set up a batch that way.

    2) You have to set the A frame in Cinema Tools. Meaning on each clip, you will have to tell Cinema Tools where the A frame is so there’s no batching

    3) See number 1

    Jeremy”

    Didn’t know about the caveat with #2…

    I went with a combination of 1 & 3, and that was the ticket. Should have done that to begin with, but most everything I’ve reversed has come through great with Cinema Tools.

    If Compressor’s interface wasn’t so freakish, I’d probably enjoy using it more. With qmaster & virtual clustering, it screams on my dual quads.

    Thanks, Jeremy!

    Doug Metz

    Anode

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 24, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    [Doug Metz] “If Compressor’s interface wasn’t so freakish, I’d probably enjoy using it more.”

    It’s easiest if you set up a new preset with your settings, custom destination and file name structure BEFORE dragging in any clips. Save it and then make sure to save it, and then save again. Then bring in ONE clip and do a test and make sure it’s going to work. If you do it this way, there’s less screw up as the preset gets saved to the presets folder. If you start a preset on an asset, there’s a chance you might blow it away, or it will differ from the preset in the presets window as it can become a temporary, separate modified preset, if you know what I mean. If it turns out it doesn’t work, make sure to delete the preset from your asset in the batch window, then modify the preset in the preset window and save. Then drag that newly modified preset up to your asset and submit again. I hope that makes sense.

    Once you check that file out and it looks good, bring in your batch of all of your raw clips from the Cap Scratch folder, select all, drag your preset to them all and hit submit. It’s fairly simple.

    Glad you are up and running!

    Jeremy

  • Doug Metz

    October 24, 2008 at 9:07 pm

    Hey Jeremy,

    That’s exactly how I’ve been using it… ;o)

    I’m just not crazy about the interface – scrolling is jumpy and slow (on a dual quad 3.2 w/16GB RAM and upgraded video card), giant ‘targets’ in the batch window, no right-click in the preset/destination window to create new presets or folders, a history window that just won’t stay gone… it just doesn’t seem very ‘Apple’.

    Once it’s set up and tweaked, though, it does kick some serious a**. It plowed through 8 hours of video clips -116 files – in about 20 minutes. I DO like that part an awful lot.

    Thanks again!

    Doug Metz

    Anode

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