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HDV capture: HDV or ProRes – which one?
Posted by Darren Ebert on October 22, 2008 at 6:09 pmGood Afternoon,
I am editing a 3 camera ‘Charlie Rose-style’ interview shot in HDV. There likely will NOT be any effects or compositing. Just talking heads.
Given that, it doesn’t sound like I need to capture as ProRes, or should I? Is there any benefit in still capturing as ProRes, in my situation?
Thanks for the tips.
Darren Ebert replied 17 years, 6 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies -
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Walter Biscardi
October 22, 2008 at 6:40 pmIf you are laying back to HDV, stay in HDV.
If you are laying back to any other format, go to ProRes.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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Walter Biscardi
October 22, 2008 at 6:53 pm[Darren Ebert] “This video is for the web.
Still go with ProRes?”
Your call. I personally despise editing in the HDV format so we never do regardless of what we’re doing with it. We capture it to 8bit, DVCPro HD or ProRes depending on what the final output is.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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Darren Ebert
October 22, 2008 at 6:59 pmThanks again, Walter. I appreciate your time.
What is it that you don’t like about editing natively in HDV?
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Walter Biscardi
October 22, 2008 at 7:03 pm[Darren Ebert] “What is it that you don’t like about editing natively in HDV”
Too slow
Too much rendering
Codec falls apart when applying effects and filters, especially when you color grade.
it’s not a post production format and I advise all my clients to get out of that format before editing.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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Steve Connor
October 22, 2008 at 10:04 pmCapture HDV, edit in a Pro res sequence – easy! There is absolutely no quality advantage in going any other route.
Steve Connor
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Ken Pugh
October 23, 2008 at 1:26 amBut wont the rendering still take just as long – as the HDV has to be converted to prores every time a change takes place, even with multiple changes to the same clip. How about edit in HDV (cuts only) then convert the clips with media manager to prores with say 2 second handles, then do all the post effects, CC etc. This way you save space and disc overheads at the cuts/assembly stage but work totally in prores – at high quality and with quick renders – for the grading, effects stage.
Make sense?
Cheers,
Ken.
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Zane Barker
October 23, 2008 at 7:04 am[Ken Pugh] “But wont the rendering still take just as long – as the HDV has to be converted to prores every time a change takes place”
NOPE. HDV will play fine in a prores timeline, the benefit is that when ever you render it renders in prores preserving quality plus prores renders faster.
Changing your render settings to prores is a GREAT mix.
There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
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Andy Mees
October 23, 2008 at 12:53 pmmy advice would be to capture as HDV and edit as HDV … but do set your sequence render codec as ProRes for the best of both worlds
given your intention for such a straightforward edit and given that you intend to cut with 3 simultaneous streams then you’ve got nothing to gain from ProRes as a capture codec
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