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  • SD 16:9 – What am I doing wrong?

    Posted by Bob O’brien on October 17, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    I would sure appreciate someone’s input here…

    I am trying to create a 16:9 SD DVD – looks great in FCP, but can’t seem to get the DVD to turn out 16:9 – it’s squashed into 4:3. What am I doing wrong?

    Workflow:
    1. Editing 4:3 footage and stills into a 720×486 Anamorphic 16:9 Uncompressed 8-bit timeline. Everything looks great.

    2. I export a QT Ref Movie on sequence using “current settings.” (Interestingly, when I open the REF MOVIE with Quicktime, it is squashed into 4:3).

    3. In Compressor. I select it’s Preset of “MPEG-2 6.2Mbps 2-pass. In the inspector, it shows16.9 as the aspect ratio.

    4. I bring m2v file into DVDSP. SD Menu/Track General Preferences are set to 16.9 Pan & Scan (I have also tried 16.9 Letterbox).

    Results are squashed 4:3 DVD each time. Not letterboxed.

    I have to be doing something stupid. HELP!

    Bob

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    Bob O’brien replied 17 years, 6 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Chris Borjis

    October 17, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    pan & scan will crop it to 4:3 so don’t use that.

    it’s either 16×9 letterbox or the other setting (I think there is 3)

    you can tell when its correct because the icon of the video
    in dvd studio pro will go wider on the sides.

  • Bob O’brien

    October 17, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Upon further testing… I think there may be something wrong in my Compressor settings (but I don’t know why. I say this because when I bring a FCP exported movie into DVDSP directly, it is the proper 16:9 format.

    PORTABLE
    *MacBook Pro – 2.33Ghz – 2Gb RAM
    *Matrox MXO / 23″ Cinema Display

    DESKTOP
    DualG5, 2gHz, w/5.1.4 firmware
    *2.5 Mb RAM, 160 Mb SATA HD
    *UL4D w/1.4.0f1 flash and 3.0.0 driver
    *HMV800 DualMax RAID0 Revision 511
    *AJA IO w/20-21 firmware & v1.1r1 driver

    SOFTWARE
    *OSX10.4.11, QT 7.5, FCP 6.0.4, Livetype 2.1.3, Soundtrack Pro 2.0.2, DVDSP4.2.1, Adobe CS3 Prod Suite

  • Mark Maness

    October 17, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Does the Quicktime file play correctly?

    The file that you export from FCP could be flagged wrong. I have had this to happen in FCP 5.1.4 before. It seems like that Quicktime doesn’t understand anamorphic video very well. I’ve had to physically change the clip size in Quicktime to get Compressor to compress it properly.

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  • Chris Borjis

    October 17, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    I never define video as anamorphic (not the clip or sequence) until it goes through compressor with
    the 16:9 aspect picked. Doing this avoids some occasional godawful weirdness in fcp (bug for sure).

    it always imports properly into dvdstudio pro doing it that way on my setup.

    sometimes other people bringing in their own 16:9 streams are not flagged and come
    in 4:3 so I manually change them to 16:9 in the inspector.

    In my experience dvd studio pro is not capable of quality encoding of mpeg2 video
    no matter what you set its compression engine for. (I wish it used compressor within itself)
    So I can’t speak to that.

  • Dave Bingham

    October 19, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    I have this problem from time to time as well. You have to make the sequence in FCP 16×9 anamorphic. I have tried it using a Pro Rez sequence and an uncompressed sequence. The only way I have made it work is with a DV anamorphic sequence. When you drop the reference movie into Compressor It automatically knows it’s 16×9 anamorphic. I have not been able to get compressor to do this with anything but a DV sequence.

  • Dave Bingham

    October 19, 2008 at 5:01 pm
  • Bob O’brien

    October 19, 2008 at 7:13 pm

    Thanks to all who responded!

    To avoid “the squeeze,” here’s what has ended up working for me.

    1. I edit a 16:9 Anamorphic SD sequence (Uncompressed 8-bit)
    2. Output a reference movie of the sequence
    3. Import the reference movie into DVDSP & Author (Everything in DVDSP set to 16:9 of course).

    Results: a DVD that plays back letterboxed on a 4:3 set or full 16:9 on an LCD.

    The compression quality, to my eye, looks just as good doing it from DVDSP as from Compressor.

    Thanks!

    Bob

    PORTABLE
    *MacBook Pro – 2.33Ghz – 2Gb RAM
    *Matrox MXO / 23″ Cinema Display

    DESKTOP
    DualG5, 2gHz, w/5.1.4 firmware
    *2.5 Mb RAM, 160 Mb SATA HD
    *UL4D w/1.4.0f1 flash and 3.0.0 driver
    *HMV800 DualMax RAID0 Revision 511
    *AJA IO w/20-21 firmware & v1.1r1 driver

    SOFTWARE
    *OSX10.4.11, QT 7.5, FCP 6.0.4, Livetype 2.1.3, Soundtrack Pro 2.0.2, DVDSP4.2.1, Adobe CS3 Prod Suite

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