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  • Posted by Josh Snider on August 14, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Hi, I’ve been working on my MBP 2.4 GHz 2GB RAM, FCP 6, thru FW 800 to an external 2.5″ drive for quite a while now. I just got a new one from Oyen Digital, and am editing a wedding on it, which was captured as avi’s on Premiere by my company.
    FCP always tells me that these avi’s aren’t optimized, but i always use them anyway with no problem.
    This time around I was getting a longer warning, which I wish I’d read–but as far as I can remember it had something to do with rendering/RT/Safe, something along those lines, even though my render settings are set to RT Safe.
    at a certain point, i heard a little pop, and a loud digital bell sound (similar to when you press an invalid keystroke on a Mac). i could no longer hear my audio in FCP after that. The external FW drive was very hot. I quit out, ejected the drive, and tried again. I got the same digital bell sound (no pop though), which sounded very bad, and makes me very nervous that i could potentially blow something in the laptop. the application worked fine this time though.
    I decided not to proceed, and to give the electronics a rest.
    so now i’m going to try again after 8 hours, and i will definitely copy down that warning if it pops up again.
    i’m very nervous though.
    does anyone have an idea as to what’s happening here?

    Thank you, Josh

    Josh Snider replied 18 years ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Josh Snider

    August 14, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Alright, I got a warning again–I wish I could attach the screenshot of it for you guys. But it said that frames were dropped during playback, and that i could take 6 different measures to limit this from happening, such as turning off Unlimited RT, and closing open sequences. It also suggests “increasing the speed of your system and/or disk drives and/or network connections”
    I’m wondering if i should go back to the store and get the other external that was working fine, but a bit more expensive.
    I’m also 99% sure that there was another warning I’d been getting, that was longer than this one, but which spoke to similar things. If that pops up, I’ll snap a shot of it as well.

    Thanks

  • Josh Snider

    August 14, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    okay, now i totally just got the pop sound through the speakers, but no bell sound. the player head stopped. but when i press play again, everything plays fine.
    this is definitely concerning now. i’m going to call Apple. if you all have advice, let me know,

    Josh

  • Michael Sacci

    August 14, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    That is simple a warning that something is not fast enough for playback and the dropped frames has caused playback to stop.

    First thing to try is Select Unlimited RT. What color are the top stripes of the sequence (above the time scale)

    Are these 7200 RPM drives.

    It also sounds like you got some other issue going on with the speakers, unless the audio needs rendering, if it does it will beep as it plays back.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 14, 2008 at 5:27 pm
  • Josh Snider

    August 14, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    okay, so the FCP Dropped Frames Support article helps out a lot. The second warning message is the other one I’d gotten, which says that the dropped frames are due specifically to slow disks.
    In answer to your question, I’d brought the audio in as an aiff, so the audio didn’t need any rendering–but the video has a green render bar above it becuase i’d changed the clips’ speed.
    But it’s obvious to me now that this Oyen Digital drive is too slow for what I’m doing. It’s a 5400RPM drive.

    When I originally went to MicroCenter searching for a suitable 2.5″ external drive, the guy told me that I should be very careful with using a 2.5″ drive that spins at 7200RPM. He told me that a friend of his had burnt a port or something weird like that, because the small drive, with no AC plug, couldn’t handle the 7200 speed.

    So I tried out a 5400RPM Lacie, this one to be specific: https://www.compuplus.com/i-LaCie-Rugged-200GB-All-Terrain-External-USB-20-Firewire-800-Firewire-400-7200-RPM-8MB-Hard-Drive-301310-1011050~.html?sid=or37bdm1so22ubr

    it worked beautifully, and to add to it, it was faster than my 3.5″ 7200RPM externals when using my VJ program (VDMX), because it had FW800 (i had never used FW800 before that)

    so that’s what led me to believe that 5400RPM drives weren’t so bad for video anymore.
    I’ll probably sell this Oyen (which is too bad because it has an eSATA port), and grab the Lacie drive again. If anyone has advice about 7200RPM 2.5″ drives, please let me know, and maybe i’ll buy one of those instead of the Lacie.

    Thanks

  • Paul Dickin

    August 14, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    Hi
    How is the Qyen drive formatted? (Not FAT32 so you could get the AVIs on it- that’s a no no with FCP).
    How are you connecting it – FW800, right?

  • Josh Snider

    August 14, 2008 at 8:20 pm

    yeah, it’s connected with FW800.
    it’s formatted MacOS Extended (Journaled)
    i got the avi’s on via another external drive formatted as NTFS.

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