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  • Projecting next week – any advice?

    Posted by Caleb Crosby on July 19, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    I’m projecting a 50 min ex1 1080p film this Thursday night and need to ask for ‘gotcha avoidance’.

    I projected a 10 min teaser in same theater from my laptop and it went well. I just played it out in full screen from final cut and plugged into the projector via DVI.

    But now I need to provide on an HD dvd for daily shows. My plan is to buy an HD-DVD player to install in the theater and output a file in DVD studio pro to burn the projection master. Sound like the best approach?

    Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

    Caleb Crosby, soc

    Jason Porthouse replied 17 years, 9 months ago 8 Members · 17 Replies
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  • Steve Eisen

    July 19, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    The HD DVD format is DEAD! You can try to make a HD DVD file from DVDSP and play from your computer. There are NO HD DVD burners.

    Your other alternative is Blu-Ray. Adobe Encore is the only application that can create a Blu-Ray disk.

    If this is going to be an on going thing, I would suggest purchasing Adobe CS3 Production Premium which contains Adobe Encore.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Caleb Crosby

    July 19, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Steve,

    Ken Stone has an online tutorial that shows how to master an HD DVD
    disc on a dvd 5 (regular minus R) with DVDSP. My thinking is grab a dedicated player cheap (you can still find them online). Who cares if it’s “dead” technology if it can do the task at hand, eh?

    I’m just not sure if I can get 45-50 min on one.

    Blu Ray is my 1st choice but it’s really not here yet. Is it?

    caleb

  • Steve Eisen

    July 19, 2008 at 7:25 pm

    I am very aware of Ken’s tutorial. I have created them myself. You are pushing the time limit on DVD-R.

    Blu-Ray is here and ready to go with great success!
    Create and Burn Blu-ray Discs using Adobe Encore
    https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=detail&id=562933

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Walter Biscardi

    July 19, 2008 at 7:35 pm

    [Steve Eisen] “Blu-Ray is here and ready to go with great success!
    Create and Burn Blu-ray Discs using Adobe Encore “

    Um, sort of. Go read my blog to see multiple entries about BluRay and Encore. It works, sort of, kind of, but don’t create custom menus, and dear God don’t create a Chapter Menu…….

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Walter Biscardi

    July 19, 2008 at 7:37 pm

    [caleb crosby] “Blu Ray is my 1st choice but it’s really not here yet. Is it? “

    We’ve already created 10 titles on BluRay, it’s definitely here. Adobe Encore is your only choice on the Mac or Toast 9, but I haven’t heard all that many good stories about Toast 9 BluRays even working correctly. If all you need is a “Play” button, then Encore is absolutely perfect. If you need to create any sort of a custom menu, don’t expect much. Read my blog, I have at least three or four articles in there about my fun with Adobe Encore.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Steve Eisen

    July 19, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    Walter,

    I would consider you a success story. Encore may not be perfect, but it works.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Board of Directors
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Arnie Schlissel

    July 19, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    [caleb crosby] “But now I need to provide on an HD dvd for daily shows.”

    If this is going to be a daily show for any amount of time, consider buying a Mac Mini or cheap PC and projecting from that.

    You can play a HD QT or WMV file out from the DVI port to the projector, without the hassle of having to author a disk. Either format can use H.264 encoding to play good looking HD at reasonably low bandwidth.

    Arnie
    Post production is not an afterthought!
    https://www.arniepix.com/

  • Walter Biscardi

    July 19, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    [Arnie Schlissel] “If this is going to be a daily show for any amount of time, consider buying a Mac Mini or cheap PC and projecting from that. “

    Or even better, Apple TV.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Walter Biscardi

    July 19, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    [Steve Eisen] “I would consider you a success story. Encore may not be perfect, but it works.”

    We’re only a success because we’ve had to strangle the software into submission and then live with its limitations. To call it a success, is an understatement. Once my clients are fully happy with their products, then I’ll say Encore works. Right now we have underwhelmed clients because we can’t do something as simple as a Chapter Menu correctly due to all the button routing issues.

    Does it create a working BluRay? Yes but ONLY with Toast to burn the actual ISO file. We’ve only gotten Encore to actually burn two BluRay discs. The rest are coasters.

    Would I recommend Encore to anyone else for BluRay? Well, if you’re on a Mac like we are, you’re screwed and it’s the only choice you have. Create menus with simple “Play” buttons and hope your clients are happy with that.

    Thanks to a suggestion in another thread about this topic we’re considering NetBlender’s DoStudio which can create commercially replicated BluRay discs and has a very very reasonable licensing plan for small shops like mine. It will cause me to purchase a pretty hefty PC just for that application, but if it works, it will be worth it.

    I’m hoping that another solution for the Mac will be forthcoming from somebody. Apple certainly isn’t in any hurry to support the format and I’m not sure if they ever will with DVDSP based on the communication I got from the DVD SP team back in February.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

    STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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  • Rennie Klymyk

    July 19, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    [caleb crosby] “My thinking is grab a dedicated player cheap (you can still find them online). Who cares if it’s “dead” technology if it can do the task at hand, eh? “

    I took a standard dvd into a local retailer a few weeks back just to see how it looked on the LCD and plasma big screens that most folks now have in their living rooms. The players they had set up and were using for all the displays in the shop played SD-DVD; HDDVD OR BluRay. Those decks played anything you put into them and they cost $499.00 and $599.00. I think they were Hitashi but I’m not positive about the brand. I was quite surprised to see where this has all come as when the format wars were ongoing it was understood that these formats were in-compatible. HD-DVD was to be backward compatible with SD-DVD but BluRay was not. I guess Hitashi has installed 3 different readers into those players. Seems like a good investment.

    Toast 9 apparently can burn “BluRay” * to standard red laser discs now too so some of the parameters are definitely changing or being overcome.

    * In reality toast 9 burns HD video to red laser discs and adds instructions that enables bluray players to play them.

    “thou can not stir a flower without crumbling a star” ……Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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