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  • new mac / AE memory

    Posted by Mukaau on April 23, 2007 at 10:08 am

    Anyone know about AE memory problems on new DualCore macs?

    I’ve revently upgraded from mac with Dual 2GB Power PC with 1.5GB DDSR SD RAM, OS 10.4.8, to a 2 x 2.66 DualCore Intel Xeon w/ 2GB 667MHz FB-DIMM, running OS 10.4.9. On my new mac, AE says it doesn’t have enough memory to do things it was quite happy with on previous model.

    Apparently this is because my version of AE 6.5.0.97 doesn’t know how to use the mac – and it needs an “emulator” – I’m not sure what though.. Anyone know about this? Apparently it might have come with the OS, but I’m not sure.

    My computer had it’s OS transfered (by my boss) straight from another mac -so it’s using 10.4.9 instead of 4.8 – would it work better on the 10.4.8 stuff that came with this machine instead? Or can I get this emulator elsewhere? Or do I actually just need a newer version of AE to get my projects working again?

    any suggestions/info I would be v grateful

    thanks v much

    Adolfo Rozenfeld replied 19 years ago 6 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jimmy Brunger

    April 23, 2007 at 1:17 pm

    It’s because you now have an Intel-based Mac and until AE CS3 comes out AE will use a programme called “Rosetta” (bundled with OSX I think) to operate..this saps alot of performance out of AE apparently. you may need to get some more RAM aswell to compensate

    Fear not though – just upgrade ($$$!) in the summer and all will be well. OR run AE on a PC for now 😉

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  • Mike Procunier

    April 23, 2007 at 1:23 pm
  • Kevin Camp

    April 23, 2007 at 3:37 pm

    as jimmybee said, the emulator is rosetta, and it is part of the os and runs quietly in the background (aside from the length of time that it takes to open a non-intel friendly app, you’d hardly know it’s running). it will, however, eat up a chunk of ram. this will then limit the amount of ram that is available to the application, and this is probably the issue you’re having.

    you can follow graham jones’ suggested settings (i think he was using the same amount of ram that you have), but his thread was primarily about increasing performance by limiting ram available to ae (in particular, ae7).

    but you issue is not performance, it’s finishing a render, correct? there are 2 things that should help. make sure you are not running any other applications, particularly non-intel native apps like adobe cs2 applications. and, you may also need to try setting the ‘secret’ pref to pure ram at a specific intervals. hold the shift key and select after effects>preferences>general (hold the mouse key down the entire time, releasing on ‘general’). now, from the prefernce window click the pref pulldown and select secret (it may be shecret in ae 6.5, i can’t remember). set the purge every xx frames to a number that is less than where you get the error (if you want a generic place to start try 30). if you encounter issues again, lower the number by half, until you get a succesful render.

    one other thing that can help, use the ‘send to render queue’ function, rather than make movie or export. if your render fails to finish and you used add to render queue… ae will will create another render in the queue that starts at the point where the failed render left off. you can then just reasemble the clips in ae or an nle.

    there are two things that i would suggest… buy more ram. 1.5gb isn’t much anymore, i would recommend getting at least 3gb total (if you plan to upgrade to the next ae this summer you’ll want at least 1gb per core, preferably 2gb per core, so 4-8gb would be recommended to get the improved performance of the new render engine). second, upgrade to ae7… ae7 has a faster render engine than ae6.5, along with other improvements, and i think you will get a discount on the upgrade to the next ae. you got a faster computer, you might as well get faster software.

    Kevin Camp
    Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • David Bogie

    April 23, 2007 at 11:03 pm

    The Cycore Effects totally suck on the Intel Macs.
    I have no crashing issues except with Cycore. And I’m teaching a class and we do a ton of Cycore stuff. It’s most inconvenient.

    bogiesan

    This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

  • Mukaau

    April 24, 2007 at 1:23 pm

    Thanks very much everyone that’s really helpful!

  • Kevin Camp

    April 24, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    yeah, the cc effects will give you problems no matter what you do with your settings… i asked cycore about this problem and it didn’t sound like they were interested in rewriting the value added effects that are bundled with ae, they claimed apple and adobe needed to address the issue. they did however mention that the non-free hd versions were available and had been fixed.

    you can use them, just save often.

    Kevin Camp
    Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Adolfo Rozenfeld

    April 24, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    As I said in a recent post, an Intel ready version of Cycore FX will come bundled with the final release of AE CS3.
    Running out of memory in an Intel Mac is very related to Rosetta taking as much memory as the application it translates. Which as we all know, it’s Adobe’s (and Cycore’s) fault 🙂

    Adolfo Rozenfeld
    Buenos Aires – Argentina
    ar(AT)adolforozenfeld.com

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