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where do plug-ins live on the computer?
where on my computer can i find the plug-ins in final cut 5.1.4?
The work computer i’m on has a bunch of transitions/generators/filters that i want to keep for my home computer. how/where do i get em on the system?
-chris
Dual 2g G5, FCP 5.1.4, MAC OS 10.5.2
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15 Replies
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Um, you purchase them and you install them legally. You don’t copy plug-ins from work and take them home.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Plugins are found in Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Final Cut Pro System Support/Plugins. These can be copied from system to system, might need to re-enter serial if applies.
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[Thomas McNamara] “Plugins are found in Macintosh HD/Library/Application Support/Final Cut Pro System Support/Plugins. These can be copied from system to system, might need to re-enter serial if applies.”
Or he can purchase them legally instead of taking them from work.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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Of course. Hopefully the plugins in question are free ones only, such as TMTS or others. Otherwise, probably not a good idea to steal plugins from work.
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[walter biscardi] “Or he can purchase them legally instead of taking them from work.”
How do you even know they’re not freeware plugins he’s talking about? These could be Stibs or G-Free or whatever and he doesn’t know the names or where to download them. And even if they aren’t free plugins, it can still be legal depending on the situation.
Some lawyers would argue that since he can’t be at work and at home at the same time, and if he’s owns both machines and is the only one who has access to them, then it would be legal to have it on both machines. Other lawyers will of course argue the opposite. AFAIK the legality of placeshifting computer software in this situation is a gray area that hasn’t been defined in court. It may perhaps violate the EULA. But an EULA is not necessarily a law. A software company could write an EULA that says you’re not allowed to use the software on Passover or Easter or something. Obviously violating that wouldn’t hold up in court unless you’re in Iran or something.
I’m not saying this is the case. Maybe he is just stealing software that his employer purchased – but we don’t know that and it’s none of our business nor our place to assume it.
A more helpful response would be a way to provide a non-controversial way to bring non-freeware plugins home from work. It’s not like the location of plugins is some sort of secret. Here’s an idea. He could remove the files each time he left a location. If he used “move” instead of “copy” to a USB key for example it would NOT be a violation of any EULA. Even if the computer at work wasn’t his, he’d just be borrowing from his employer (assuming the employer is fine with it). No different than taking the actual computer home.
Sean
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[Sean ONeil] “Some lawyers would argue that since he can’t be at work and at home at the same time, and if he’s owns both machines and is the only one who has access to them, then it would be legal to have it on both machines.”
If he owns both machines, then he is perfectly fine to install the plug-ins on both machines since he will only be using one at a time. If he owns both machines, then I would assume he also owns the plug-ins so he can easily bring them home and install them.
Since he wants to bring them home from work, then I assume that he does NOT own the machines and he does NOT own the plug-ins. Otherwise he would just bring the discs home.
[Sean ONeil] “I’m not saying this is the case. Maybe he is just stealing software that his employer purchased – but we don’t know that and it’s none of our business nor our place to assume it.”
Again, I make this assumption based on the fact that he wants to know how to get the plug-ins off a system from work, rather than just bringing the discs home and installing them or bringing home the downloaded originals.
If these are free plug-ins, then just download them and install at home.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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thanks for the help.
-chris
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“AFAIK the legality of placeshifting computer software in this situation is a gray area that hasn’t been defined in court.”
Uses for software are defined by the EULA. It’s not a gray area. It’s whatever the EULA says. Apple’s EULA specifically says the software can only be loaded on one desktop computer and one laptop owned by the same person. It does not say any two computers owned by a single person. It’s specifically a desktop and a laptop. You can run the software on both the laptop and the desktop simultaneously, legally, within the terms of the contracting EULA as long as you own them both.
This is basic contract law. If the EULA says you can’t use the software on the Sabbath, you can’t. You can take the manufacturer to court but you’ll lose. You license the software on the terms of the license. If you don’t like the license, complain, have other people complain, make a big stink, but don’t use the software. It’s like renting a store to run a business, if the landlord says you have to be closed on the Sabbath, and defines what that is in the contract, and you agree to it, you have to be closed, or you’re in breech of the contract. There are no gray area or maybes.
All the best,
Tom
Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
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Suffice it to say, if you want to copy plugins, don’t do it unless you plan on using them legally; use the installation disks you purchased, or if they’re free, download them.
Besides, oftentimes plugins that are copied to a new system illegally don’t work properly, or require serialization or activation anyways.
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[Tom Wolsky] “This is basic contract law. If the EULA says you can’t use the software on the Sabbath, you can’t. You can take the manufacturer to court but you’ll lose”
Are you joking? Sorry dude, this is America.
“The international copyright treaty, Article 4, equates computer programs with literary works. Thus, computer programs are automatically placed under copyright, which grants the copy owner normal rights use, and others fair use of the computer material. The signing away of one’s legal rights can normally only be done by a properly signed paper contract, or under some circumstances, orally if supported by witnesses or recordings, or, in even more restricted use, via electronic signatures issued by the local government, as a person charged with violating a license agreement otherwise can merely claim not to know who opened the box or clicked the agreement box in the install software, and it is not possible for the licenser to provide proof of who is the purported licensee, nor has a person accused of breaching a license agreement any obligation to provide such proof. In addition, legal rights can only be signed away if local law admits it; so a properly signed paper contract may not be enough to abrogate copy owners’ rights, unless there are special legal provisions admitting it”
“The enforceability of an EULA depends on several factors, one of them being the court in which the case is heard. Some courts that have addressed the validity of the shrinkwrap license agreements have found some EULAs to be invalid, characterizing them as contracts of adhesion, unconscionable, and/or unacceptable pursuant to the U.C.C. ”
Sean
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