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  • Best HDV workflow for now

    Posted by Christopher Kinsman on March 23, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    Hi Friends, I’m working on Mac G4 Dual 1.4/FCP 5.1.4/OS11.4.1/2.3TB Raid. I’m working on a doc which was shot on HDV (Sony 1080i/60) Is there a workflow available to me to ingest HDV via firewire with my current setup and work in a clean, quick codec? Or should I downres out of the camera and ingest as SD via Firewire and edit to picture lock. Then I’ll upgrade when I can afford and re-aquire as HDV and output via HD-SDI to HD tape? How difficult is it through media manager to re-aquire the timeline in HDV? Thanks for you input! Kind Regards, Chris

    Jason Porthouse replied 18 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    March 23, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    I believe FCP 5.1.4 was the first to support HDV. Is there not an HDV Easy Setup available to you? That would be the easiest if you don’t have a capture card.

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  • Christopher Kinsman

    March 24, 2008 at 12:30 am

    Hi Walter, Thank you for the info. Do you know what codec this would be using and how cumbersome/large the files are? I don’t expect many extensive graphics but I don’t want to bog the computer down if I don’t have to. Kind Regards, Chris K.

  • Walter Biscardi

    March 24, 2008 at 12:38 am

    [Christopher Kinsman] “Do you know what codec this would be using and how cumbersome/large the files are?”

    The HDV codec. No idea on exact file sizes, but they are incredibly small.

    Digital Heaven has a great widget you can download to determine storage space for video amounts.

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  • Christopher Kinsman

    March 24, 2008 at 1:04 am

    Hi Walter, Thank you for this gadget and the website. It helped me answer some troubling questions. Kind Regards! Chris K.

  • David Roth weiss

    March 24, 2008 at 2:08 am

    [Christopher Kinsman] “Do you know what codec this would be using and how cumbersome/large the files are?”

    For the record, HDV files and DV files are pretty much exactly the same size, i.e 13gb per hour.

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  • Zane Barker

    March 24, 2008 at 3:41 am

    File sizes will be the least of your problems if you work with native HDV. With your system rendering and conforming the HDV will be the most painful part.

    There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
    Don’t let technology get in the way of your creativity!

  • Christopher Kinsman

    March 24, 2008 at 4:57 am

    1. Thank you David!

    2. Zane, this is why I asked about the alternate workflow of SD until I can afford to upgrade my Mac and my AJA acquistion card/bob and then re-aquire the cut as HD. Any further thoughts? Kind Regards, Chris K.

  • Jason Porthouse

    March 25, 2008 at 11:00 am

    Christopher,

    What is your final delivery? I doubt if it will be HDV…

    Also – is this a ‘Cuts only’ doc, or one where you’ll be using effects and composites?

    Your system will probably handle HDV fine for the cutting – I’ve used similar and it was pretty much the same as DV. As others have stated though, render times and conforming will be the killer. However it is unlikely you’ll do an HDV conform.

    If you’re serious about upgrading your Mac to edit HD on, do your sums first in terms of cost of ALL peripherals and the associated implications – you may find that ‘offlining’ on your suite and ‘onlining’ elswhere is a better proposition financially… then you could cut in HDV and take your media and programme to an HD ready setup to grade and render as HD. Alternatively use the DV donconvert to produce a locked offline for re-ingest as HD elsewere…

    Think about where you want to be at the end of the process, and that will give you the best route through…

    HTH

    Jason

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