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  • videomaterial moving in different way (discontinuously) suddenly

    Posted by Sarah Leisdovich on January 25, 2008 at 10:12 pm

    Hi Creative cow community,

    I am editing something and it was all going well until recently when the video-material (both the material in my browser as in my timeline) started to move forward in a different way… in little shocks… not continuously anymore… I have no idea what i might have done to provoke this, honestly i don’t think i did anything to change the settings. i checkes the settings and it’s still on ‘playback quality’ medium, like always.
    One weird thing occurred though just before this: the system was telling me there were dropped frames during playback (which hadn’t been the case before, with the same material) and i said “not warn again”. From this moment on some of the clips started to have this effect described above and now all of the material has it…
    Please, let me know if anyone has had this before? I already restarted FCP and also the computer, but the problem persists…
    What else can i do?

    Thanks in advance…

    Sarah Leisdovich replied 18 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 14 Replies
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  • Paul Escandon

    January 25, 2008 at 10:52 pm

    I would say it’s generally a bad idea to not see when you have dropped frames during playback – for the precise reason that you are now experience. When there is a dropped frame you generally want final cut to stop playing so that you can address the problem. Sometimes this simply means rendering. Sometimes this means changing your RT settings to something like “Dyanmic” – and sometimes this might indicate a different problem such as drive speed or even a corrupt file or something more severe.

    When you aren’t warned of dropped frames often your audio will be out of sync and from the moment where the dropped frame occurs you will have major issues.

    I would turn that setting back on – address the dropped frames problem when they occur and go from there.

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  • Paul Escandon

    January 25, 2008 at 10:56 pm

    By the way it’s in User Preferences > General tab to turn “report dropped frames during playback” back on.

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  • Sarah Leisdovich

    January 25, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    Hi,
    thanks you for your reply. This is good to know and I won’t act so careless anymore in the future…
    anyway, now i changed the settings again (report on dropped frames), restarted FCP again but it’s still going on: the dicontinuity in the movement + also he doesn’t report dropped frames anymore…
    one thing that assures me though: the original clips in Capture Scratch seem still intact…
    Should I “re-connect” all the media or is there a better solution ?

  • Sarah Leisdovich

    January 26, 2008 at 12:25 am

    i just discovered that the clips in the browser now seem alright. just all the material in the timeline seems affected… i’ve created a new sequence and put a clip in it and as soon as it hits the timeline the problem arises… discontinuity in the movement… and visible horizontal lines…???

    also: i don’t have an option for dynamic RT (only safe and unlimited)

  • Paul Escandon

    January 26, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Are the sequence settings of your timeline properly matched up with your footage? That’s something I would check into. When you drag a clip onto your timeline is there a colored bar over the clip telling you that it needs to be rendered or is not supported in real time? If so, then your sequence settings are off.

    Also, have you tried trashing your preferences since this problem started? I would do that just to see if that might potentially help.

    And oh yeah – the two settings are Unlimited and Safe RT. When I said dynamic I was referring to the video quality and playback quality in that same dropdown menu from the timeline that allows you to set either to dynamic – which means final cut will throttle these settings on the fly when it sees fit.

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  • David Roth weiss

    January 26, 2008 at 1:28 am

    Sarah,

    How full are your hard drives??? I’m guessing this could be the source of the problem you’re having.

    David

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  • Sarah Leisdovich

    January 26, 2008 at 2:25 am

    thanks for your help…

    ehm, what exactly is trashing your settings?
    i returned to “easy setup” for the format i’m working in, but it didn’t change anything…
    also i don’t think it has to do with the timeline not matching the footage, at least not in an obvious way… because before it worked fine (didn’t have to render) and now there’s no colored bars above the timeline neither and there’s no rendering needed…

    (could it be it has to do with a “timeline option” i was testing while editing, in “user preferences” “starting timecode:1:00:00;00 x drop frame? I changed it to 0:00:00, but it didn’t work because it only will work for timelines created after the settings are changed… but i just thought because of the “drop frame” mentioned behind the timecode setting in the preferences…?)

  • Sarah Leisdovich

    January 26, 2008 at 2:29 am

    Hi,

    the memory space left on my computer is 14,14 GB of the total 74 GB.
    The external harddrive (LACIE) on which the project is situated has still 28 of 232 GB free space.
    I though this was enough. Am I wrong?

    Thanks for your help!

  • Walter Biscardi

    January 26, 2008 at 2:48 am

    [Sarah Leisdovich]
    ehm, what exactly is trashing your settings?”

    System Drive > User (You) > Library > Preferences > Final Cut Pro User Data

    Trash the three Icons, not the folders. Prefs, Obj Cache, Prof Cache.

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  • Walter Biscardi

    January 26, 2008 at 2:50 am

    [Sarah Leisdovich] “The external harddrive (LACIE) on which the project is situated has still 28 of 232 GB free space.”

    That’s really getting full. Once you go beyond 75 – 80% full on any hard drive, performance will suffer. You’re over 90% full and that drive will definitely be having issues trying to play back the footage.

    This is why so many of us run huge arrays for storage so we always have a ton of overhead to ensure performance. In my case I have 8TB arrays but rarely use more than 2TB.

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    Biscardi Creative Media
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